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An overheating Teflon pan nearly killed my pet birds. I don't see how that's a factual but misleading statement.
by russdill 2y ago
An overheating Teflon pan nearly killed my pet birds. I don't see how that's a factual but misleading statement.
- Ninjinka 2y agoCanary in the coal mine!
- xattt 2y agoCanary in an kitchen with an overheated Teflon pan. (1) https://www.buffalobirdnerd.com/storage/app/media/Teflon.pdf https://www.buffalobirdnerd.com/storage/app/media/Teflon.pdf
- csallen 2y agoChocolate nearly killed my pet dog. Factual, but misleading in an article about health risks to humans.
- whatshisface 2y agoNobody's claiming that the gasses aren't toxic to humans, the they are saying that they do not overheat their pans.
- zeroonetwothree 2y agoThey aren’t very toxic to humans either.
- genuinelydang 2y agoOverheat your Teflon pan, take a good huff, wait a few hours and post that comment again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer_fume_fever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer_fume_fever ”When PTFE is heated above 450 °C the pyrolysis products are different and inhalation may cause acute lung injury. Symptoms are flu-like (chills, headaches and fevers) with chest tightness and mild cough. Onset occurs about 4 to 8 hours after exposure to the pyrolysis products of PTFE.” There is basically no safe limit for these chemicals — EPA limit for drinking water is 4 ppt. U.S. residents already have average blood PFAS levels to the tune of 4000 ppt.
- timr 2y ago> wait a few hours Indeed. When was the last time you left your nonstick pan sitting on a cooktop with nothing in it, for hours? If you're the kind of person to leave empty pans burning for that long, I'd be more worried about cognitive decline and/or the risk you'll die in a fire of your own making.
- whatshisface 2y agoPretty much any heating element setting will take a pan to 450 degrees. Do people do it? - I doubt the parent commenter is lying about their bird.
- timr 2y agoYeah, see...I just deleted the 450 degree part (right before I saw your response), because somehow I knew someone would pick at it. The temperature is the least relevant part of what I wrote.
- whatshisface 2y agoA pan left on the stove will turn red, and it is an accident that happens with some regularity. This issue is a lot like ground fault protectors: a rare accident that could be avoided by never interacting with a product in a certain way nonetheless occurs, and can only be eliminated through technical means. Just imagine that you're at your parent's house, and you look over at a glowing pan. Oops, you have a headache...
- beepbooptheory 2y agoJust keep in mind gp is talking celcius. A good sear on a steak will happen around 200-250°c
- teucris 2y agoMistakes happen all the time. Cooktops have terrible user interfaces. People need to juggle multiple things at once, especially parents. Furthermore, the quote above merely states that the pan has to reach a specific temp, not be out for hours.
- wil421 2y agoCandles and incense also kill birds. I think they are also sensitive to air fresheners. Too bad most birds can’t smell very well.
- zeroonetwothree 2y agoIt’s misleading because “harmful” in this context usually means to humans not to birds.