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One of the reasons I run a PS5 instead. AFAIK, there's fewer cheaters on PlayStation current-gen than on PC, and I don't have to worry about anti-cheat kludges

by neilv 2y ago

One of the reasons I run a PS5 instead. AFAIK, there's fewer cheaters on PlayStation current-gen than on PC, and I don't have to worry about anti-cheat kludges corrupting my "rig".

Aeolun 2y ago
You mean all the anti-cheat options are pre-built into your rig?
- portaouflop 2y ago
  Which is fine on a device that you only use for gaming, or am I missing something?
  - dmichulke 2y ago
    Well, you run untrusted code in your local network. Then again, we all trust our "smart" devices even if we really don't. I suppose a separate network would be the safe option (if you trust your router). That said, have there been rotten meat attacks using "temporarily above temperature" fridges? Are vegans just applying a defensive strategy against those?
  - lxgr 2y ago
    Not nearly every "gaming PC" is used for only that. When I grew up, I had one PC to do everything: Homework, gaming, learning to program, storing the single copy of treasured family photos, gaining painful experience in why to make backups before modifying the MBR to dual-boot Linux... Especially with iPads and Chromebooks becoming more prevalent in an education context, a "gaming PC" might well be the only computer that gives the user full control over it that many children have access to these days.
    - prmoustache 2y ago
      Computers were much more expensive back in the days and would be obsolete much faster. Nowadays for 50€ you can have a decent second hand computer with an older gen core i5 and 8 to 16GB of memory. That is plenty enough to run qubesOS.
    - wing-_-nuts 2y ago
      I get where both sides are coming from. On the one hand, buying a console and a reasonably spec'd laptop is clearly the better value. I did this during college, and both my laptop, and my console both lasted about a decade without requiring any upgrades. I did this again with the PS4. You wind up spending far less than you otherwise would trying to keep a gaming pc reasonably up to date, and both devices are optimized for their usage. On the other hand? At some point most of us will realize that we've been successful enough that we don't have to optimize for value, and we can choose 'all of the above'. I now have a PS5 AND a stupidly overspec'd AI / gaming desktop. I've enjoyed having both.
- grbrr 2y ago
  Yes, so you don’t have to run a rootkit on a machine that you might file your taxes on.
  - echoangle 2y ago
    I would bet 90% of people here have at least another laptop if they have a gaming PC, if you’re concerned about being compromised by rootkits, just do your taxes on that.
    - stavros 2y ago
      There's nothing "just" about compromising one of my machines so badly that I don't trust it to file my taxes on any more.
    - lostlogin 2y ago
      So you own one machine and Rockstar owns the other?
      - echoangle 2y ago
        Well that was supposed to be the deal with the PlayStation, too.
      - Dilettante_ 2y ago
        "Your computer calls me root too"
- pjc50 2y ago
  Yes. It's kind of an odd situation, because it's one where it's a benefit to me if other people are running anti-cheat. A limited sort of remote attestation that the people you're playing with aren't running certain kinds of software that peeks into or alters the memory image of the game or its graphics drivers.
pixxel 2y ago
You’ve just got Sony watching over you and transcribing your audio conversations with friends.
- generalpf 2y ago
  “Shoot that guy” “Ok” Super valuable stuff.
  - croes 2y ago
    Training data for AI
    - WithinReason 2y ago
      Sony is training the AI drones for the battlefields of the future from gamer conversations
      - Lanolderen 2y ago
        Can't wait to hear "Who you challin lil bro" as I get shot in the ass by a drone.
      - shultays 2y ago
        Not only future drones will get better at killing you, they will also learn to shit talk after doing that
  - notabee 2y ago
    Or more likely, listening to background noise to spy on what family members are saying and listening for marketing/brand trigger words. It may not be very human audible but if it's machine audible it will probably be scraped.
Woeps 2y ago
This is the exact reason why is started with streaming services for games (Gfore/boosteroid/game pass). Next the anti-cheat thing I also spend less waiting for updates. And this way I can still play these games with my buddies.

by neilv 2y ago

One of the reasons I run a PS5 instead. AFAIK, there's fewer cheaters on PlayStation current-gen than on PC, and I don't have to worry about anti-cheat kludges corrupting my "rig".

Aeolun 2y ago

You mean all the anti-cheat options are pre-built into your rig?

portaouflop 2y ago
Which is fine on a device that you only use for gaming, or am I missing something?
- dmichulke 2y ago
  Well, you run untrusted code in your local network. Then again, we all trust our "smart" devices even if we really don't. I suppose a separate network would be the safe option (if you trust your router). That said, have there been rotten meat attacks using "temporarily above temperature" fridges? Are vegans just applying a defensive strategy against those?
- lxgr 2y ago
  Not nearly every "gaming PC" is used for only that. When I grew up, I had one PC to do everything: Homework, gaming, learning to program, storing the single copy of treasured family photos, gaining painful experience in why to make backups before modifying the MBR to dual-boot Linux... Especially with iPads and Chromebooks becoming more prevalent in an education context, a "gaming PC" might well be the only computer that gives the user full control over it that many children have access to these days.
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    Computers were much more expensive back in the days and would be obsolete much faster. Nowadays for 50€ you can have a decent second hand computer with an older gen core i5 and 8 to 16GB of memory. That is plenty enough to run qubesOS.
  - wing-_-nuts 2y ago
    I get where both sides are coming from. On the one hand, buying a console and a reasonably spec'd laptop is clearly the better value. I did this during college, and both my laptop, and my console both lasted about a decade without requiring any upgrades. I did this again with the PS4. You wind up spending far less than you otherwise would trying to keep a gaming pc reasonably up to date, and both devices are optimized for their usage. On the other hand? At some point most of us will realize that we've been successful enough that we don't have to optimize for value, and we can choose 'all of the above'. I now have a PS5 AND a stupidly overspec'd AI / gaming desktop. I've enjoyed having both.
grbrr 2y ago
Yes, so you don’t have to run a rootkit on a machine that you might file your taxes on.
- echoangle 2y ago
  I would bet 90% of people here have at least another laptop if they have a gaming PC, if you’re concerned about being compromised by rootkits, just do your taxes on that.
  - stavros 2y ago
    There's nothing "just" about compromising one of my machines so badly that I don't trust it to file my taxes on any more.
  - lostlogin 2y ago
    So you own one machine and Rockstar owns the other?
    - echoangle 2y ago
      Well that was supposed to be the deal with the PlayStation, too.
    - Dilettante_ 2y ago
      "Your computer calls me root too"
pjc50 2y ago
Yes. It's kind of an odd situation, because it's one where it's a benefit to me if other people are running anti-cheat. A limited sort of remote attestation that the people you're playing with aren't running certain kinds of software that peeks into or alters the memory image of the game or its graphics drivers.

pixxel 2y ago

You’ve just got Sony watching over you and transcribing your audio conversations with friends.

generalpf 2y ago
“Shoot that guy” “Ok” Super valuable stuff.
- croes 2y ago
  Training data for AI
  - WithinReason 2y ago
    Sony is training the AI drones for the battlefields of the future from gamer conversations
    - Lanolderen 2y ago
      Can't wait to hear "Who you challin lil bro" as I get shot in the ass by a drone.
    - shultays 2y ago
      Not only future drones will get better at killing you, they will also learn to shit talk after doing that
- notabee 2y ago
  Or more likely, listening to background noise to spy on what family members are saying and listening for marketing/brand trigger words. It may not be very human audible but if it's machine audible it will probably be scraped.

Woeps 2y ago

This is the exact reason why is started with streaming services for games (Gfore/boosteroid/game pass). Next the anti-cheat thing I also spend less waiting for updates. And this way I can still play these games with my buddies.