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Tesla has been testing a robotaxi service in the Bay Area for most of the year
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- jameslk 2y agoJust providing this so you know why I’ve downvoted/flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > AltRightTaxi Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity. > Two Muskito brigades downvotes in less than 40 seconds. Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.
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- jameslk 2y agoWhen there's an article that seems political that I come across, I'll either flag it (if it doesn't seem like it belongs here, guidelines-wise) or I'll hide it if it's something I dislike but I feel is probably still relevant to the community. Hiding is a great way not to get incentivized to say something that will only make matters worse
- worstspotgain 2y agoModeration is speech too. It's not possible to have an apolitical discussion of matters related to a plutocrat that offers a $100M vote bounty. To selectively silence dissenters is to be even more political than to just debate with them. Besides, Tesla is a car company. There are dozens of weekly articles about it, compared to maybe one for all the other automakers put together. This has effectively turned HN into an advertising platform for Musk. If moderation was sincere and not pretextual, the entire topic would be banned. I'm 100% sure I'm not making matters worse by posting. At a minimum it creates a data trail for the bots' actions. It also prevents giving the impression that the audience has been 'tamed' into full Musk complacency by the bots. BTW, it's funny that my replies to the flagged message are getting flagged too. If someone can read the original message they can read the replies as well. Digging into the hidden reply chain just to flag more stuff gives away the automated nature of the flagging.
- throwaway5752 2y agoTesla is not currently licensed to operate a commercial autonomous ridehailing service in California. Musk predicted it would be easier to obtain permission in Texas than California. Then why is he doing it in the Bay Area, then? Do it in Texas. Tesla has plenty of employees there. He said they'd be building 50 thousand semis by now. He said they'd have 1 million robotaxis in 2020. Who cares what he says any more?
- worstspotgain 2y ago> Then why is he doing it in the Bay Area, then? Probably so he can blame in on politics when it fails spectacularly.
- pkaye 2y agoI'm guessing many of the engineers doing the AI/self driving stuff want to remain the bay area.
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- hooloovoo_zoo 2y agoI wonder if Tesla would launch an Uber competitor without achieving autonomy.
- saturn8601 2y agoIf you have to ask the answer is of course!
- TheAlchemist 2y agoGreat to hear that they started testing it - these 1 million Robotaxi were sitting idle since 2020 ! If you believe any of Musk's bullshit, do yourself a favor and listen to past investor calls from Tesla. And then check how these statements and predictions turn out in reality. "1000 times better than human driving by the second quarter of 2025". We're yet to see any reliable number from Tesla about those claims. Every single new version of FSD is "mind blowing" and looks like they "solved autonomy", for the past 4 years. And yet, they did unveil a concept Robotaxi in a ... Hollywood studio. Autonomy was solved in Hollywood studios and Theme parks 30 years ago.
- Satam 2y agoHow do you reconcile his "bullshit" with the fact his spaceships are saving astronauts from space?
- basiccalendar74 2y agoone is a public company whose stock can be pumped up with "bullshit", other is not.
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- dietr1ch 2y agoHe's just the rich clown atop of the companies putting pressure and maybe unreasonable requests to smart people under him that as you go down the chain are actually closer to being worth their net worth.
- TheAlchemist 2y agoWell, simple there is no need to reconcile it ? One can be successfull in one area and fail in another. Tesla is not a bad company. As an EV maker, it's as good as it gets (although it's still bad as a business). But if it was just that, it would be valued at 10% of what it is today, at best. But it's promoted by Musk, and priced by the market, as a revolutionnary one. And if you look at the history of it, you see it's all smoke and mirrors. In the process Musk cashed out > 40 billion USD.
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- teractiveodular 2y agoHas anybody ever seen one? Or are they outwardly just regular Teslas and thus indistinguishable from all the other Teslas roaming around the Bay Area?
- me_me_me 2y agoAt this stage it might as well be a Indian call center controlling them remotely.
- iknowstuff 2y agoindistinguishable