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So, a 14 year old having access unsupervised to a chat bot is the problem, but the fact he had access to a gun to shoot himself was halfway through the article

by roomey 2y ago

So, a 14 year old having access unsupervised to a chat bot is the problem, but the fact he had access to a gun to shoot himself was halfway through the article and described as his five year old brother "hearing the gunshot". "Man bites dog" as Terry Pratchett put it in "Times". And to explain to more literal folk here... A 14 year old having access to a gun is FUCKING INSANE

cpncrunch 2y ago
The AI chatbot suggested that he should try to create a plan to kill himself.
krapp 2y ago
I mean, yes. We're talking about the US, after all, the only free country in the Western world that explicitly defines liberty as a function of gun violence in its Constitution. Access to guns is never the problem. It can never be the problem and it will never be the problem. It must never be the problem.
- akimbostrawman 2y ago
  >explicitly defines liberty as a function of gun violence in its Constitution That's not what it says or means. The right to keep and bear arms is explicity for self defence which is to prevent violence and protect. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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givemeethekeys 2y ago
Context is everything. A typical 14 year old city boy? Yes. A 14 year old raised in the country who was taught gun safety as part of learning how to hunt at 10? He's already way ahead of most adults with access to a gun.
- defrost 2y ago
  He was way ahead. Q.E.D. as per the article. What was absent, apparently, was gun safes and appropriate supervision.
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
  Suicide by hunting rifles doesn’t sound very easy, I bet this was a handgun instead.
api 2y ago
The gun is why you’re hearing about this. It meant he succeeded. If he’d eaten a bunch of his dad’s left over pain killers and gone to the hospital it may not have made the national news.
rsynnott 2y ago
Both are concerns; responsibility for this sort of thing is rarely entirely on one party.

by roomey 2y ago

cpncrunch 2y ago

The AI chatbot suggested that he should try to create a plan to kill himself.

krapp 2y ago

I mean, yes. We're talking about the US, after all, the only free country in the Western world that explicitly defines liberty as a function of gun violence in its Constitution. Access to guns is never the problem. It can never be the problem and it will never be the problem. It must never be the problem.

akimbostrawman 2y ago
>explicitly defines liberty as a function of gun violence in its Constitution That's not what it says or means. The right to keep and bear arms is explicity for self defence which is to prevent violence and protect. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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givemeethekeys 2y ago

Context is everything. A typical 14 year old city boy? Yes. A 14 year old raised in the country who was taught gun safety as part of learning how to hunt at 10? He's already way ahead of most adults with access to a gun.

defrost 2y ago
He was way ahead. Q.E.D. as per the article. What was absent, apparently, was gun safes and appropriate supervision.
seanmcdirmid 2y ago
Suicide by hunting rifles doesn’t sound very easy, I bet this was a handgun instead.

api 2y ago

The gun is why you’re hearing about this. It meant he succeeded. If he’d eaten a bunch of his dad’s left over pain killers and gone to the hospital it may not have made the national news.

rsynnott 2y ago

Both are concerns; responsibility for this sort of thing is rarely entirely on one party.