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Let’s just assume this happens for a moment. What do Android OEMs do? They can’t use Apple chips, or now Qualcomm chips. Switching to another architecture is a
by MBCook 2y ago
Let’s just assume this happens for a moment.
What do Android OEMs do? They can’t use Apple chips, or now Qualcomm chips. Switching to another architecture is a big deal.
Would this basically hand the Android market to Samsung and their Exynos chips? Or does another short term viable competitor exist?
- magnio 2y agoMediaTek is still available.
- mappu 2y agoWithout (complete) kernel sources, they're already e-waste.
- nolist_policy 2y agoNo problem, as they are used in chromebooks: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/refs/heads/factory-geralt-15840.B-chromeos-6.1 https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/ker... https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/refs/heads/factory-corsola-15196.B-chromeos-5.15 https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/ker...
- plussed_reader 2y agoI notice how 'viable' isn't an operative in your statement.
- Iwan-Zotow 2y agoDimensity 9400 looks good
- refulgentis 2y agoThey're pretty good. Just can't beat qualcomm / Apple flagship. So around Intel level ;)
- imp0cat 2y agoThey've come a long way, Samsung is apparently considering Mediatek chips for their next flagship phone (S25).
- ThatPlayer 2y agoTheir flagship tablets line up, Galaxy Tab S10 plus and ultra, is entirely Mediatek too.
- numpad0 2y agoMediaTek was always viable, it was always GPU that made non-Qualcomm non-viable
- NelsonMinar 2y agoDon't know about cell phones but their Chromebooks are pretty good.
- jjpprrrr 2y agoThere is MTK that offers the Dimensity series SoCs with Arm cores. Qcom can also go back to using Arm Cortex cores in the next Snapdragon SoC.
- jsheard 2y agoThis move doesn't stop Qualcomm from licensing ARMs reference cores, it only blocks them from designing their own in-house ARM cores like Apple does. The vast majority of Qualcomm chips currently on the market are built around reference cores, they only recently got back into the custom core game with their acquisition of Nuvia which also kicked off this dispute with ARM.
- dv_dt 2y agoThere are probably Risc-V companies eagerly anticipating an opportunity in that space, but I don't know if any are in the performance ballpark right now.
- Narishma 2y agoQualcomm itself is one such company.
- greesil 2y agoEveryone's going to have to buy a Pixel phone, ahahahahaahahha.
- gruez 2y agoSamsung phones are presumably firm as well. They recently switched to snapdragon (qualcomm) chips but before they were using exynos (samsung) chips.
- devsda 2y agoSamsung still uses qualcomm in US markets and exynos outside US even for their flagships.
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- jsheard 2y agoSamsung phones use both, in a very literal sense. Their flagship devices usually have both Snapdragon and Exynos variants for different regions, and their lower end devices are mostly Exynos across the board. The S23 line was an exception in using Snapdragon worldwide, but then the S24 line switched back to using Snapdragon in NA and Exynos everywhere else, except for the S24 Ultra which is still Snapdragon everywhere. Yes it's a confusing mess, and it's arguably misleading when the predominantly NA-based tech reviewers and influencers get the usually superior QCOM variant, and promote it to a global audience who may get a completely different SOC when they buy the "same" device.
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- ksec 2y ago1. Qualcomm is still allowed to buy , use and sell ARM's Design IP. i.e Going back to Cortex X series. 2. Mediatek is available, mostly with latest ARM's IP. And extremely competitive. The only thing missing is Qualcomm Modem. It isn't Mediatek's modem are bad, they are at least far better than whatever Apple's Intel Modem had used or planned. The only problem is Qualcomm is go good customers still prefer it for the relatively little price they are paying for. 3. It is not like Android OEM cant make their own SoC. Especially considering the smartphone market can now be largely grouped as Apple, Samsung and Chinese. Together they are 95%+ of Market share.