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They’re doing well in spite of Musk, not because of him. Shotwell is running that company not him.
by davedx 2y ago
They’re doing well in spite of Musk, not because of him. Shotwell is running that company not him.
- sebstefan 2y ago>CEO of Rocket Company named Gwynne Shotwell That's an entry on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptronym https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptronym if I've ever seen one
- carabiner 2y agoLol everyone is thinking she's CEO when she's COO: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41807408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41807408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41230320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41230320 also confuses the name/gender, Glenn vs. Gwynne https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39614912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39614912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38863528 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38863528
- IshKebab 2y agoDo you have any actual evidence of that, or is it something you like the idea of because it's difficult to accept that Musk is a real arsehole and total idiot about some things (e.g. steering wheels, divers), yet also a very successful engineer (yes) at other things (rockets, electric car platforms). This tweet directly contradicts you: https://x.com/lrocket/status/1845486565591798164 https://x.com/lrocket/status/1845486565591798164
- mavhc 2y agoThere's a simple rule, if Musk founded the company and it does well then it doesn't matter that he founded the company. (SpaceX) However if Musk didn't found the company and it does well, then that's a very important thing. (Tesla)
- ywvcbk 2y agoWhy would it matter whether he technically founded Tesla? He basically built it from scratch regardless. Also What does that have to do with him (supposedly) being a talented engineer? He’s a brilliant strategist/visionary/CEO obviously but Cybertruck was a product of his engineering decisions then.. yeah.. probably he isn’t.
- mavhc 2y agoCybertruck is outselling every EV sold by Ford, seems fine
- consteval 2y agoRight, consumers are often stupid beyond belief and will buy an objectively worse product purely for prestige and signaling to other humans. It's that social part of the brain going off. That doesn't change the fact the Cyber Truck is an inferior truck to just about any other truck in just about any metric. It's a testament to the sheer arrogance of Man and the failure of modern American education.
- mavhc 2y agoFaster than an F150-Lightning Tighter turning than everyone Faster charging than Rivian or F150, 94 miles gained in 15 mins vs 83 and 68 Best API obviously Best suspension Best ADAS Lighter than both Longer bed, larger cargo volume, higher payload and towing capacity than either
- ywvcbk 2y agoLooks like it’s designed by a not particularly talented three year old? of course not everyone is bothered by that. All the water/environment related issues (I guess you can get the “optional” coating) and the absurd repair costs seem like a bigger issue. > Tighter turning than everyone Doesn’t the Hummer EV have a 25% smaller turning radius? Also a removable roof.
- ywvcbk 2y ago> very successful engineer Do you have any evidence of him ever being one? I mean he’s an extremely successful CEO and decision maker which is almost infinitely more important than just being an engineer. I mean was Jobs ever considered an “engineer”? And I’d bet he was significantly more involved in the design of Apple’s most successful products than Musk was in SpaceX (and possibly even Tesla if Cybertruck was the result of him going of the reins).
- ninetyninenine 2y agoHe gets down in the weeds to the engineering level… there’s plenty of evidence for this.
- wtfwhateven 2y agoNope. Not at all.
- IshKebab 2y agoGo and watch the videos of him touring SpaceX. He's clearly involved in the engineering. You just don't want to believe that because it complicates your view of him as a purely worthless arsehole. You can't accept that he's an arsehole and a skilled engineer (or project manager if you want to gatekeep "engineering").
- blueredmodern 2y agoYeah, that's true for the incredible innovation in Neuralink and Paypal and OpenAI and Tesla, too. It's a total coincidence that Jeff Bezos and other billionaires fail.