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Can someone explain what law forces Musk to pay them $47 for everyone that fills out a form?
by madmod 2y ago
Can someone explain what law forces Musk to pay them $47 for everyone that fills out a form?
- jedberg 2y agoMusk is running a similar program for people in swing states, paying them $47 to refer potential Trump voters. If he doesn't pay, or pays selectively, he's violating various campaign finance laws.
- api 2y agoIsn’t it flat illegal to pay people to vote? Otherwise Trump or Harris could just… directly bribe people to vote for them through a cutout.
- orwin 2y agoIt's not if its a superPAC, apparently.
- yul__bel 2y agoThat seems to be the work around.
- drcross 2y agoHe's not paying people to vote. He's paying people to register to vote.
- ryandvm 2y agoI believe that too is illegal. Isn't he just paying them to "sign" a petition that they'd vote to support the 1st and 2nd amendments?
- gdhkgdhkvff 2y agoHe’s paying a person $47 for every registered swing state voter that that person refers to the SuperPAC and that follows through on signing a petition to support first and second amendment rights. It appears to be lawyered loopholes around paying people to register to vote directly. Which is illegal as you mentioned. Sure plenty of people will sign it for the money and then forget about it, but some sliver of people that sign will feel some sliver of obligation to vote for the candidate that the petition obviously wants them to vote for. A sliver here and there could be enough to turn this currently close election.
- paulcole 2y agoThis has always been one of my favorite questions to think about. If votes could be legally sold how much would it cost to buy the US Presidential election?
- api 2y agoWith the lax finance laws we have I’m guessing China could install a regime that would actively help them take Taiwan for less than ten billion, to give one example. It would be cheaper to buy the whole US military than build one aircraft carrier. It’s why this or anything like it should be very illegal and why Citizens United is a threat to US national security.
- rsynnott 2y agoSee, that’s the thing. Neither naughty ol’ mr car, nor the card game, are paying people to vote. Not technically. US election law is… not great. Note the digs at Citizens United in the FAQ.
- unsnap_biceps 2y agoit'll be breach of contract. Musk is promising that he will pay every valid voter in the swing states $47 if they fill out his form and certify they will vote for in the interest of the first and second amendments, if a eligible voter fulfills their part of the bargain and says to send their check to CaH, it's their right to do so. Musk can't just decide he doesn't like what they're doing with (now) their money and not pay up on his end of the bargain.
- netsharc 2y ago> Musk can't just decide [to] not pay up on his end of the bargain. Have I got a list of times he's done exactly that. Granted he also loses a lot in court. He even had to go through paying $44B once...
- miki123211 2y agoHuh. If this is true, I'm surprised this "program" hasn't yet caught on as a Tiktok "here's how to get $50 for free if you live in one of these states" trick.