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My biggest gripe with AR products is that they will just become a tool to spoil the real world with ads everywhere. No thanks.

keiferski 2y ago
But many cities in the real world already have ads everywhere. If anything, a modified AR device could allow you to detect and remove those.
- Log_out_ 2y ago
  I cant wait for one to overblend the other .New shakedown unlocked.
- murermader 2y ago
  Complex solution to a simple problem. Just ban ads in cities. Like some cities have already done. Then the ads that are left are just for stuff that is important, e.g. events, music, etc. No need for AI filtering algorithms that have to decide what to block and what to leave.
  - keiferski 2y ago
    Probably impossible in the US at least, as it would be considered a first amendment violation.
    - vincnetas 2y ago
      Is graffiti also freedom of speech? If i have a wall does it mean i can write whatever i want on it? I guess not. These are social norms. And we could decide that advertisement is not ok in public spaces like it's not ok to walk around naked.
      - keiferski 2y ago
        Not an equivalent situation at all. Graffiti makers don’t have billions of dollars to hire lawyers that challenge laws that ban advertising. Society increasingly runs less and less on social norms and more on laws.
      - drbscl 2y ago
        Graffiti is illegal because it involves damaging property, not because of its textual / visual content...
        vincnetas 2y ago
        But if i had a wall (own), could i write anything i want on it?
    - kn0where 2y ago
      Plenty of US cities and towns have regulations prohibiting billboards.
      - keiferski 2y ago
        Interesting, I didn’t know that. Maybe it would be possible legally then, although I imagine that NYC would be a tough place to get it passed.
  - _flux 2y ago
    On the other hand, your solution requires a lot of people to agree and possibly turn away some money, whereas the AR solution (once available) can be individually applied without any decisions by others; only for the one person to decide whether to buy it or not (if they have the money). So it's not that clear to me which one of these is complex and which simple.
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      Oh no, what a pain, to make changes to the world based on a broad consensus of opinions, rather than relying on rapacious billionaires to helpfully put their surveillance device into all of our hands without our permission.
    - crabmusket 2y ago
      Turn away from the public, turn away from democratic participation, turn inward into your own curated world.
- TheDong 2y ago
  The public spaces are subsidized by advertising. Filtering out billboards on the highway is reducing their impressions, and thus reducing the money that ultimately goes into repairing the road you're driving on. The modified AR device will instead filter ads, but charge 0.03 cents per ad filtered, and each advertiser will get 0.02 cents each time their ad is filtered. Facebook of course keeps the remaining 30% for facilitating the ad and anti-ad marketplace. Eventually there will be a bidding war where advertisers will require you to pay 0.10c not to view their ad, which they'll have made increasingly unpleasant to look at, and you'll have to adjust your device's balance and payment thresholds to avoid getting hit by AR jumpscares as you drive around. Anyway, I pay on average $0.35c per youtube video not to look at ads based on the cost of youtube premium vs the number of videos I watch in a month, so honestly the above price-point seems like a good deal.
  - chii 2y ago
    > pay 0.10c not to view their ad i can't tell if this is satire or not lol
  - keiferski 2y ago
    I’m not so sure that private billboards are funding road maintenance. I would assume that mostly comes from taxes and fees like tolls. I imagine that there will be ad blocking hacks just like there are ad blockers on browsers. So not a huge difference from the current situation.
- vincnetas 2y ago
  Good thing that in reality people are noticing that adds are too intrusive and removing them from public spaces. Or at least regulating them. Google about the cities that have banned outdoor advertisement.
- noisy_boy 2y ago
  adblockVR
- evantbyrne 2y ago
  Desire to digitally block out the scenery feels like a good litmus test for whether one is living in a dystopian hellscape.
ErigmolCt 2y ago
Especially if monetization becomes a priority...
hhr 2y ago
This reminds me a Futurama quote: "Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 20th century? Fry: Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written on the sky... But not in dreams."
plutokras 2y ago
As others already mentioned, the real space is already full of all sorts of advertisements. I personally can't wait for an AR uBlock.
- lifeinthevoid 2y ago
  Do you really look forward to 1) Try and maintain some piece of software on your device to overlay real-world adds? 2) Try and maintain some piece of software on your device to block AR adds? I personally don't ...
  - lifeinthevoid 2y ago
    can't edit and can't stand the 2 'adds' typos I made :-)

keiferski 2y ago

But many cities in the real world already have ads everywhere. If anything, a modified AR device could allow you to detect and remove those.

Log_out_ 2y ago
I cant wait for one to overblend the other .New shakedown unlocked.
murermader 2y ago
Complex solution to a simple problem. Just ban ads in cities. Like some cities have already done. Then the ads that are left are just for stuff that is important, e.g. events, music, etc. No need for AI filtering algorithms that have to decide what to block and what to leave.
- keiferski 2y ago
  Probably impossible in the US at least, as it would be considered a first amendment violation.
  - vincnetas 2y ago
    Is graffiti also freedom of speech? If i have a wall does it mean i can write whatever i want on it? I guess not. These are social norms. And we could decide that advertisement is not ok in public spaces like it's not ok to walk around naked.
    - keiferski 2y ago
      Not an equivalent situation at all. Graffiti makers don’t have billions of dollars to hire lawyers that challenge laws that ban advertising. Society increasingly runs less and less on social norms and more on laws.
    - drbscl 2y ago
      Graffiti is illegal because it involves damaging property, not because of its textual / visual content...
      - vincnetas 2y ago
        But if i had a wall (own), could i write anything i want on it?
  - kn0where 2y ago
    Plenty of US cities and towns have regulations prohibiting billboards.
    - keiferski 2y ago
      Interesting, I didn’t know that. Maybe it would be possible legally then, although I imagine that NYC would be a tough place to get it passed.
- _flux 2y ago
  On the other hand, your solution requires a lot of people to agree and possibly turn away some money, whereas the AR solution (once available) can be individually applied without any decisions by others; only for the one person to decide whether to buy it or not (if they have the money). So it's not that clear to me which one of these is complex and which simple.
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    Oh no, what a pain, to make changes to the world based on a broad consensus of opinions, rather than relying on rapacious billionaires to helpfully put their surveillance device into all of our hands without our permission.
  - crabmusket 2y ago
    Turn away from the public, turn away from democratic participation, turn inward into your own curated world.
TheDong 2y ago
The public spaces are subsidized by advertising. Filtering out billboards on the highway is reducing their impressions, and thus reducing the money that ultimately goes into repairing the road you're driving on. The modified AR device will instead filter ads, but charge 0.03 cents per ad filtered, and each advertiser will get 0.02 cents each time their ad is filtered. Facebook of course keeps the remaining 30% for facilitating the ad and anti-ad marketplace. Eventually there will be a bidding war where advertisers will require you to pay 0.10c not to view their ad, which they'll have made increasingly unpleasant to look at, and you'll have to adjust your device's balance and payment thresholds to avoid getting hit by AR jumpscares as you drive around. Anyway, I pay on average $0.35c per youtube video not to look at ads based on the cost of youtube premium vs the number of videos I watch in a month, so honestly the above price-point seems like a good deal.
- chii 2y ago
  > pay 0.10c not to view their ad i can't tell if this is satire or not lol
- keiferski 2y ago
  I’m not so sure that private billboards are funding road maintenance. I would assume that mostly comes from taxes and fees like tolls. I imagine that there will be ad blocking hacks just like there are ad blockers on browsers. So not a huge difference from the current situation.
vincnetas 2y ago
Good thing that in reality people are noticing that adds are too intrusive and removing them from public spaces. Or at least regulating them. Google about the cities that have banned outdoor advertisement.
noisy_boy 2y ago
adblockVR
evantbyrne 2y ago
Desire to digitally block out the scenery feels like a good litmus test for whether one is living in a dystopian hellscape.

ErigmolCt 2y ago

Especially if monetization becomes a priority...

hhr 2y ago

This reminds me a Futurama quote: "Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 20th century? Fry: Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written on the sky... But not in dreams."

plutokras 2y ago

As others already mentioned, the real space is already full of all sorts of advertisements. I personally can't wait for an AR uBlock.

lifeinthevoid 2y ago
Do you really look forward to 1) Try and maintain some piece of software on your device to overlay real-world adds? 2) Try and maintain some piece of software on your device to block AR adds? I personally don't ...
- lifeinthevoid 2y ago
  can't edit and can't stand the 2 'adds' typos I made :-)