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OP here. Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them.
by farslan 2y ago
OP here. Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them.
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- invalidlogin 2y agoI like your stand. I’m wondering if it will fit the case I use on my iPhone 14 Pro, an Otterbox Defender XT. What case did you design it for use with?
- farslan 2y agoI used Apple's Silicon Case as a base for my design.
- all3z 2y ago[dead]
- akie 2y agoI mean I just want to buy it. Give me a link and I pay you money.
- fennecfoxy 2y agoThere are lots of 3d printing services, pcbway oshpark etc all do it I believe. You can order it in fdm or sls relatively cheap, just do a search and chuck the model at one or a few of em.
- farslan 2y agoThanks a lot for your support. A friend and I looked into the economics, but the lowest company willing to print was around $63. If you know of any services that provide 3D printing, I am happy to look into it.
- HorizonXP 2y agoWhat about these guys? https://www.slant3d.com https://www.slant3d.com
- farslan 2y agoI believe they want a minimum order of $1000 and only allow me to print it in a single color. Honestly, providing a physical good is a whole other set of issues with which I have no experience at all.
- boustrophedon 2y agoI haven't downloaded your model but https://www.i-solids.com/ https://www.i-solids.com/ (US-based, FDM and MJF) and https://www.weerg.com/ https://www.weerg.com/ (Italy, mostly MJF ) will both do instant quotes and you might get reasonable prices from them at scale. PCBWay and JLCPCB in China will also do 3d printing at reasonable volume, if you want to get an idea of a baseline price.
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- azinman2 2y agoSimilar. Would be nice for a max version as well. What about cases on your phone? I assume you need to remove it first?
- kurthr 2y agoIt looked like his design incorporated space for a standard case. Actually, without a case I think there might be an interesting edge detail. That wouldn't affect functionality, and look cool too!
- danielktdoranie 2y agoPersonally, I don’t use a case on my iPhone 14. I pay Apple every month for Apple Care +. If I break it Apple fixes or replaces it for free
- rootusrootus 2y agoI use a case for grip, not for the protection it provides. I'd be dropping this slippery device pretty often otherwise. I haven't been able to go case-less since the days of the iPhone 4. > Apple fixes or replaces it for free Where? In the US they charge $29 and up for repair with AppleCare+. $29 for the screen, $29 more if you damage the glass on the back too. $99 if you damage the camera or anything else that requires replacing the phone altogether.
- rupi 2y agoCame here to say this. Will happily pay for it.
- zymhan 2y agoThat's kind of the opposite of the Hacker ethos
- dymk 2y agoGetting the job done is the hacker ethos. Sometimes that means buying a solution instead of spending a bunch of time (and money) building it.
- szundi 2y agoNot sure about this, I would call this manager ethos and outsourcing
- fragmede 2y agothat's a weird notion of hacker purity. did you write your own kernel and compiler and web browser, on your own CPU that you built from transistors you made in your parents garage? and then connected to an Internet of your own creation? or did you "outsource" some part of that process to others?
- samatman 2y agoNah. Building your own, idk, mechanical keyboard? Hackerish thing to do, sure. But buying someone else's cool design is not against "the ethos", that's a silly thing to say. Supporting artisans in their craft is Good, actually, I don't see anything about this design which make it different that way.
- akie 2y agoI don't have a 3D printer and I unfortunately don't have the time.
- szundi 2y agoAlways good to know
- randmeerkat 2y ago
- freeplay 2y agoI've used craftcloud for these types of one offs before. It's a pretty great service in my experience. If you go that route, you can use my referral code REFOUSPW7TK for 10% off. Totally optional. https://craftcloud3d.com/ https://craftcloud3d.com/
- Darthy 2y agoIt looks beautiful, thanks for the write-up! Question: Most docks have ample space around the phone to grip it and remove it from the dock easily. Your design encases the phone on every side. How do you get the phone out in the morning?
- farslan 2y agoThank you. Check this tweet out: https://x.com/fatih/status/1836691756965933084 https://x.com/fatih/status/1836691756965933084 There are two holes on both sides (for both left- and right-handed people). All you do is push slightly, and it comes out. You're the third person asking this, so I'll add a section about it to the blog post. Thank you again.
- interpol_p 2y agoThere is a modification to this design that adds a button to the top to pop out the phone: https://www.yankodesign.com/2024/09/13/dieter-rams-inspired-iphone-standby-mode-dock-comes-from-an-alternate-timeline/ https://www.yankodesign.com/2024/09/13/dieter-rams-inspired-...
- bredren 2y agoYour entry doesn’t discuss the finishing step between printing and use. My experience has been that a great deal of sanding and other tool use can be needed to get to smooth results. Did you go through a finishing process after printing to get to the smooth results you show here?
- farslan 2y agoThere are none? All the photos are straight from my Bambulab X1C. I used eSun PLA+. No special treatment was done.
- bredren 2y agoThat’s awesome.
- MattGrommes 2y agoI've also been shocked at how little post-processing prints off a Bambu printer need. They're pretty amazing machines, right out of the box.
- bambax 2y agoWow. That's amazing. Is this also true for A1/mini?
- asadalt 2y agoyes!
- bdcravens 2y agoTo build atop of OP's response, the Bambu Lab line of printers are much higher quality than some older printers. I have 3 different ones, and I also just pull them off the build plate and begin using them. Many modern printers also give similar results, but may require a bit of tuning. Also it's as much about the settings in your slicer software, and most current ones have evolved to have great defaults and are easily tweaked.
- daemoens 2y agoCould you rescale the model to fit an iPhone 13 Mini?
- farslan 2y agoRescaling usually doesn't work well because the MagSafe portion is static between all sizes. Hence, every custom sizing needs a custom re-design.
- schiffern 2y agoIn theory, with parametric design (eg OpenSCAD, Autodesk Inventor, etc) a model could allow you to enter the phone dimensions and it automatically re-calculates the correct geometry. In practice, experience says doing this (in a robust way) is a lot harder than it sounds. ;) Thanks, very nice design and write-up.
- stavros 2y agoIt's not really that much harder, as long as you know which dimensions you want to be variable from the start. Going back and changing everything after the fact is a massive pain.
- notpushkin 2y agoI’ve started to put something together in OpenSCAD: https://u.ale.sh/braunscadv1.png https://u.ale.sh/braunscadv1.png I’ll share the source once it’s a bit less painful to look at (right now everything is a bunch of copy-pasted spaghetti code :')
- cianmm 2y agoI am extremely interested in this. I’ve got a new iPhone 16 and I’d love to use it in its case with this stand.
- pbreit 2y agoI wonder if there's a version that's more of a shelf so could accommodate (m)any sized phones and with/without cases?
- frantathefranta 2y agoI might upgrade soon anyway but is there something preventing iPhone 13 Pro to not fit? I'm not aware of any changes between that one and 14, 15 and 16.
- farslan 2y agoActually probably not. Does it have the same size as the 14 Pro ? If it's the same you can use it with no issues. All the orange photos you see are from an 14 Pro, so it should work nicely.
- frantathefranta 2y agoI looked into it and supposedly 14 Pro is 0.8 mm taller and 0.2 mm thicker.
- farslan 2y agoYou should be fine, go for it :)
- bigiain 2y agoMy 13Pro only displays the clock for ~30 seconds before turning the screen off (when I do the turn it sideways while charging thing, "Standby mode" I think its called?) I think the always on screen is a 14+ feature.
- frantathefranta 2y agoOh yeah I definitely forgot about that.
- bruckie 2y agoWhat orientation did you print it at, and did you use supports?
- farslan 2y agoYeap, so I added the instructions on Gumroad's page (where you download the 3D file). I printed it where the bottom is touching the plate. And support is minimal supporting the tilted part of the model.
- neves 2y agoCan you charge it while in dock?
- rcarmo 2y agoDid you notice it has a MagSafe charger? Like... It's the whole point, the iPhone won't go into StandBy mode without charging.
- neves 2y agoI don't know what is a MagSafe charger. I never used a Iphone and I'm just seeing the USB hole is covered.
- uncanneyvalley 2y agoIt’s akin to a qi charger, but also securely attaches to the phone magnetically.
- olyjohn 2y agoNot everybody uses an iPhone. I figured out what StandBy mode is when reading the article, but I had never heard of it before that.
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- amelius 2y agoWhat CAD software did you use?
- farslan 2y agoI did all my CAD work via https://www.shapr3d.com/ https://www.shapr3d.com/. It runs on multiple platforms, but I use it on my iPad Pro. There are many other options, such as OnShape, Fusion, FreeCad etc.. However most of them have their own quirks Onshape: It's public domain on Hobbyist plan, so anything I create has to be by default Public. The next plan they have is $1500 yearl Fusion: This is the most recommended one, however it's macOS and Windows only. Their Hobbyist plan is pretty generous, but the UI is very slow on macOS and it doesn't have an iPad app. For me, the iPad Pro is a huge enabler. I don't want to sit down in front of my MacBook because I already work the whole day. Second, with the Apple Pencil it's so much easier and intuitive compared to anything else. The only ceveat with Shapr3D is the cost. I paid for the yearly subscription, which was around $299. And it's the cheapest of all of them btw.
- davee5 2y agoIf you're in Shapr3D you should change all your radii and fillets to "G2" in stead of G1.* Currently all your corners (excepting the ones that use Apple's supplied bezier points) appear to be tangent but not curvature continuous. As someone with the utmost respect for the learning amateur I would like to kindly inform you that having G1 corners from just hitting "fillet" is the #1 way for design cognoscenti to ascertain that a model was built by an engineer. Alternatively you could try to mimic or offset the G2 curves Apple already paid a bazillion dollars to fine tune.** * this particular industrial designer x mechanical engineer does not use Shapr but I do see G2 / curvature continuous fillet tools exist via their support page. ** this designer also thinks Apple's and Dieter's corners are too squashed square and has been building devices with slightly sharper and more accelerated corner curvature as the world's natural bends are parabolic or catenary. So roll your own and find your aesthetic voice!*
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- nielsbot 2y agoWhen does the kickstarter campaign kick off? :)
- pxtail 2y agoNo need, it will be available on aliexpress next week
- chasebank 2y agoHow’s the weight of it when the phone isn’t docked? Perhaps you could add an insert for a steel plate on the bottom so it has a nice feel when the phone isn’t docked?
- farslan 2y agoIt's not a lot, because I printed it with an infill of 10%. You can increase it, and make it around 40% or 50%. Some people also use sands to make it heavy. For now it doesn't bother me and I think because I'm putting other things on top of the tray, it doesn't move around easily.
- schiffern 2y agoTo give a more solid feel and "woody" sound[1] you might try filling with epoxy or expanding foam.[2][3] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gwXJsWHupg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gwXJsWHupg [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/3hewrd/has_anyone_tried_filling_hollow_parts_with/ https://old.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/3hewrd/has_anyo... [3] https://old.reddit.com/r/ResinCasting/comments/9v03mp/filling_3d_printed_parts_with_resin/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ResinCasting/comments/9v03mp/fillin...
- fragmede 2y agoor clay. https://youtube.com/shorts/9YKbf5pJy9M https://youtube.com/shorts/9YKbf5pJy9M
- avianlyric 2y agoIt can be a bit painful to get hold of, but I’ve been experimenting with micro-suction sheets, which allows you to “stick” things down to smooth surfaces, without adhesives (the material surface is full of tiny pores that act as millions of mini suctions cups). And allows you to easily remove, and re-stick them later without leaving any goop behind. It’s a nice way to stop these types of 3D prints from sliding around in surfaces, without having to resort to weights or lead shot, which it way more painful to integrate that you would expect. https://sewelldirect.com/products/airstick-microsuction-tape https://sewelldirect.com/products/airstick-microsuction-tape
- bratsche 2y agoWhat kind of 3d printer do you use? Do you like it, or are there things that others do that you wish it did? Asking because I'm interested in getting one, but I know very little about them and have no idea what to research to help me decide.
- archon810 2y agoOP specified Bambu X1C. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41627847 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41627847
- bratsche 2y agoThank you! Sorry I missed that.
- 392 2y agoI'd watch Superfastmatt's latest video on the subject, although I think there is one competitor in particular that is supposed to be a similarly good experience.
- rcarmo 2y agoWill you make the STEP file available instead of 3MF?
- hackernewds 2y agowhy?
- rcarmo 2y agoBecause the STEP file has higher fidelity and can be edited as more or less common primitives. The 3MF file is just a bunch of triangles wrapped in print settings (it’s literally a ZIP with the STL inside, which is, in itself, the aforementioned bunch of triangles). Shapr3D can import and export pretty usable STEP files.
- wodenokoto 2y agoIt looks great! I am wondering if it is "top heavy"
- farslan 2y agoCan you expand by what you mean by `top heavy`? The center of mass is actually not at the top.
- notpushkin 2y agoThis is really nice! It has inspired me to finally try OpenSCAD, and I’ve started to put together a parametric version of this: https://u.ale.sh/braunscadv1.png https://u.ale.sh/braunscadv1.png Not really ready for primetime yet, just wanted to share :-) EDIT: a quick question: would you be open to sharing your version under a more permissive license? I’d love to reuse some details if you don’t mind, but I’m not sure if I can do that with the current terms.
- diggum 2y agoCurious if you got a response as I'd love a parameterized version of this design. I have the original Overwork+Scott version on my bedside, but I'd much prefer a storage space than a charger there.
- Nugget0 2y agoDo you follow any blogs for physical design? I love things like this, but don't know where to start. Thank you
- farslan 2y agoProduct designers are mostly on Instagram and YouTube unfortunately. It's rare for people to write like me. But /r/IndustrialDesign(er) and /r/Design are good places for written communication.
- jkestner 2y agoCore77 (https://www.core77.com https://www.core77.com) is by far the most nuts-and-bolts industrial design blog, though still not enough process articles for my taste. https://www.dezeen.com https://www.dezeen.com https://www.designboom.com/ https://www.designboom.com/ https://design-milk.com https://design-milk.com And Pinterest is great for inspiration.
- anshumankmr 2y agoWill this work with iPhone 15 PLus?
- asimpletune 2y agoYou should add a little cut out at the bottom or top of the frame so the phone can be removed easily.
- farslan 2y agoI tried, but then the look completely changes.
- roydivision 2y agoVery nice! Inspiring.
- farslan 2y agoThank you!
- ccorcos 2y agoWhich CAD tool did you use?