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Drivers have creative ways of getting around rules in most markets. In India when you get a ride assigned the driver will first call you and check where you are

by paxys 2y ago

Drivers have creative ways of getting around rules in most markets. In India when you get a ride assigned the driver will first call you and check where you are going, and cancel the ride (or ask for extra money) if the amount or destination is not to their liking. This happens here in the US as well. Especially for food delivery apps, the driver shown on the app will rarely be the person who actually does the delivery. This is because people create accounts and sell them to others who don't have legal status, and take a cut of their earnings.

nesky 2y ago
Never considered this before but I'd be curious if the delivery apps have data where they can tell which drivers are using this tactic.
dawnerd 2y ago
That last part also happens for rides too. Has happened to me multiple times in Orlando to the point where I’ll just call a Mears taxi instead - ends up being cheaper anyways.
johncessna 2y ago
This used to be very common in the US especially around airports where drivers wait for up to an hour to get a fare and want to make sure it's worth the wait. It may still be happening, but I just go straight for the cab to avoid the hassle.
- lxgr 2y ago
  The US airport rideshare model (if you even want to call a largely emergent phenomenon that) must be one of the most wasteful things in transportation ever. Why do I have to wait for, and find, my specific Uber/Lyft out of a sea of otherwise identical ones that are all in each other's way, all while idling and wasting tons of fuel? (I know that the legal answer is "taxi medallions"; that doesn't make it any less absurd.)
  - paxys 2y ago
    1. You pick the kind of car you want (sedan, SUV, luxury, with a child seat, pet friendly, EV). 2. The driver can choose the areas they want to drive in. 3. Cars can wait in an airport parking lot until they are needed and not crowd the terminal. It is a perfectly efficient model.
    - lxgr 2y ago
      > 1. You pick the kind of car you want (sedan, SUV, luxury, with a child seat, pet friendly, EV). I'd be willing to pay extra to just get whatever car is right there. I really couldn't care less about most of these modes, and I doubt that the vast majority of other passengers do either (maybe with the exception of a child seat). > It is a perfectly efficient model. You've clearly never been to JFK then.
      - paxys 2y ago
        JFK is a mess because it cannot accommodate the amount of traffic it gets. And you want to add thousands of Ubers standing at the gate waiting for passengers? > I'd be willing to pay extra to just get whatever car is right there So then just go to the taxi stand? Why even call an Uber?
        lxgr 2y ago
        What would be so hard about allowing a new Uber/Lyft in for each leaving one, physically or logically? Uber/Lyft could allocate the "new car in" slots using whatever mechanism they currently use to match riders to drivers. Having to find "my" car is just completely backwards in the airport scenario, at least at times of high usage.
        paxys 2y ago
        Because cars aren't allowed to idle at the terminal. They wait in a queue in the parking lot until they are matched, and then come pick you up. Yes this means you have to wait a couple minutes extra, but airports enforce this rule for a reason.
hulitu 2y ago
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xethos 2y ago
> the driver shown on the app will rarely be the person who actually does the delivery Some will get around this with fake IDs, or at one point, simply setting their own photo on the driver profile page that doesn't match the drivers license photo. https://www.wired.com/story/priscila-queen-of-the-rideshare-mafia/ https://www.wired.com/story/priscila-queen-of-the-rideshare-...

by paxys 2y ago

nesky 2y ago

Never considered this before but I'd be curious if the delivery apps have data where they can tell which drivers are using this tactic.

dawnerd 2y ago

That last part also happens for rides too. Has happened to me multiple times in Orlando to the point where I’ll just call a Mears taxi instead - ends up being cheaper anyways.

johncessna 2y ago

This used to be very common in the US especially around airports where drivers wait for up to an hour to get a fare and want to make sure it's worth the wait. It may still be happening, but I just go straight for the cab to avoid the hassle.

lxgr 2y ago
The US airport rideshare model (if you even want to call a largely emergent phenomenon that) must be one of the most wasteful things in transportation ever. Why do I have to wait for, and find, my specific Uber/Lyft out of a sea of otherwise identical ones that are all in each other's way, all while idling and wasting tons of fuel? (I know that the legal answer is "taxi medallions"; that doesn't make it any less absurd.)
- paxys 2y ago
  1. You pick the kind of car you want (sedan, SUV, luxury, with a child seat, pet friendly, EV). 2. The driver can choose the areas they want to drive in. 3. Cars can wait in an airport parking lot until they are needed and not crowd the terminal. It is a perfectly efficient model.
  - lxgr 2y ago
    > 1. You pick the kind of car you want (sedan, SUV, luxury, with a child seat, pet friendly, EV). I'd be willing to pay extra to just get whatever car is right there. I really couldn't care less about most of these modes, and I doubt that the vast majority of other passengers do either (maybe with the exception of a child seat). > It is a perfectly efficient model. You've clearly never been to JFK then.
    - paxys 2y ago
      JFK is a mess because it cannot accommodate the amount of traffic it gets. And you want to add thousands of Ubers standing at the gate waiting for passengers? > I'd be willing to pay extra to just get whatever car is right there So then just go to the taxi stand? Why even call an Uber?
      - lxgr 2y ago
        What would be so hard about allowing a new Uber/Lyft in for each leaving one, physically or logically? Uber/Lyft could allocate the "new car in" slots using whatever mechanism they currently use to match riders to drivers. Having to find "my" car is just completely backwards in the airport scenario, at least at times of high usage.
        paxys 2y ago
        Because cars aren't allowed to idle at the terminal. They wait in a queue in the parking lot until they are matched, and then come pick you up. Yes this means you have to wait a couple minutes extra, but airports enforce this rule for a reason.

hulitu 2y ago

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xethos 2y ago

> the driver shown on the app will rarely be the person who actually does the delivery Some will get around this with fake IDs, or at one point, simply setting their own photo on the driver profile page that doesn't match the drivers license photo. https://www.wired.com/story/priscila-queen-of-the-rideshare-mafia/ https://www.wired.com/story/priscila-queen-of-the-rideshare-...