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Things my girlfriend and I have argued about

136 points by Tomte 2y ago

xanadu132 2y ago
"She really over-reacts whenever she catches me wearing her underwear."
egypturnash 2y ago
Best Of The Old Web, right there.
KoftaBob 2y ago
> We're staying at a German friend's flat in Berlin and he brings out the photo album, as people do when conversational desperation has set in. It's largely pictures of a holiday he went on with Margret and a few friends several years previously. And consists pretty much entirely of shots of Margret naked. On what planet is this ok?
- datavirtue 2y ago
  Germany.
- J_cst 2y ago
  I believe in some countries in northern Europe that's not as wild as it may sound. I'm European
glitchc 2y ago
She sounds contrarian. Some people (of either gender) are naturally like that. They'll argue for the sake of arguing. It's quite draining and can really wear on you after a while. Best to find someone else. Why do they do this? The reasons aren't exactly singular. For some it's tied to deep-seated insecurity, for others it's a matter of pride/principle. And sometimes it's the only way that they know how to interact with others. This set has a strong overlap with the set of people who offer their opinion without being asked.
every 2y ago
My wife and I have been together for 46 years, 44 of them married. Yet we still make each other giggle, grin and blow milk out our noses every day. Sarcasm is our native language. Our interests are wildly different but that is of little import. Either you are compatible or you aren't...
drekipus 2y ago
Margaret sounds like my psychotic foster parent that would religiously abuse me. This really isn't cute. This is psychotic. Both that it describes and then writing about like this. This is what boomers think "cute quirky relationship" is?
djaouen 2y ago
Well this surely isn't a huge waste of time and money lol
binary132 2y ago
Clearly content from back when Someone’s Funny Website existed. Those were the days.
walthamstow 2y ago
I didn't know there was more than one way to say Jonathan
- pentamassiv 2y ago
  It's pronounced differently in German
  - holografix 2y ago
    In German it’s JOHNATHAN
- balls187 2y ago
  Indians would say "Jo nahhthan"
- mttpgn 2y ago
  Joe-Nathan? Yonatan?
  - more_corn 2y ago
    Or the correct way John-athan.
    - ffsm8 2y ago
      Jonnyboy?
911e 2y ago
That’s the real, old school web, thx for the submission
- agumonkey 2y ago
  Interestingly the older simpler the design, the less dopamine-imbalance I feel. Those sites I can read patiently.. anything modern will turn my brain into impatience impaired click machine.
  - benterix 2y ago
    Everybody needs to learn this lesson themselves, and it needs time to sink in. The result is you more consciously choose how you spend your precious time.
leosanchez 2y ago
Holy shit it's long. Even AI can't generate that.
rossant 2y ago
Follow up here: http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/main.html http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/main.ht... My eyes are bleeding though.
- machine_coffee 2y ago
  Oh Man, I think I have a candidate for the Apology Homepage.
chungy 2y ago
What does it mean to "eat my tea"? Isn't it normally made as a drink? I suppose you can eat tea leaves, never heard of someone doing so...
- iamstupidsimple 2y ago
  In the north of the UK, dinner=lunch and tea=dinner.
- maccard 2y ago
  Tea is another name for the main evening meal (Dinner) in the UK
  - chungy 2y ago
    Thanks, I didn't know that, being from the US myself.
  - timthorn 2y ago
    Of course, there's also afternoon tea consists of the drink as well as cake, sandwiches, fancies and scones. And the subset cream tea, with scones, cream & jam.
hombre_fatal 2y ago
Is this supposed to be cute? Just seems like a pathetic relationship. I don’t understand the context.
- CoastalCoder 2y ago
  > Is this supposed to be cute? Just seems like a pathetic relationship. I don’t understand the context. I can imagine two very different ways to interpret that page: a) Margaret is in on it, and considers it a hilarious comedy roast of her quirks. b) He's genuinely complaining to the entire planet, publicly, about what he sees as Margaret's faults.
  - bruce343434 2y ago
    c) it's made up entirely
- codebolt 2y ago
  If you happen to find yourself in a relationship where arguments never happen, then by all means. But as someone married to his own Margaret for the past decade I find many of these hilariously relatable. Even if she can drive me to the brink sometimes (and vice versa), I still very much love her, and when looking at it soberly the good far outweighs the "bad". Taking a bit of craziness on the chin now and then is a minor nuisance compared to many other problems in this life, and a price I'll happily keep paying for the sake of my family.
- datavirtue 2y ago
  You might learn, one day. Unless you already know everything.
- deleted 2y ago
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- flappyeagle 2y ago
  It’s cute. You must be single
monkpit 2y ago
Real “take my wife, please” vibes. Reading this hurts, and not just because of the colors.
- layer8 2y ago
  You may have missed the paragraph starting with: “As you know, this page attracts idiots. We sit here in the gentle glow of thousands of work hours being burned away, and passing idiots are bewitched by the light. They fly towards us and peer in, only to become disorientated and upset. They attempt to enter, but succeed no further than repeatedly banging their poor, bemused little faces against the glass: trying, trying, trying... but never quite grasping the situation. […]”
- Der_Einzige 2y ago
  I wonder if they publish their fetlife handle on their website :^)
yabones 2y ago
This seems very normal and healthy.
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spitfire 2y ago
I miss the old internet.
0xbadcafebee 2y ago
People will upvote literally anything on this website as long as it's novel
- jdhzzz 2y ago
  It's a feature, not a bug.
- gkoberger 2y ago
  And I'm okay with that! As other people have noted, this is a relic of the old internet. I think we're all sick of the same generic cookie-cutter dribble being monetized and pushed in front of us. If there's a lesson to be learned... I'll remember this way more than I'll remember any template-y Launch HN SaaS site marketing page. We're all desperate for something different; something that stops us for a second like a little speed bump during our 8 hours of consuming the same pre-packaged generic crap over and over again.
- kayodelycaon 2y ago
  Apparently this is a piece of internet history. I offer up these two as well: http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html https://skippyslist.com/list/ https://skippyslist.com/list/
wpguy 2y ago
Honestly, I am with her on the KitKat argument. You're a monster. /s
teruakohatu 2y ago
The first argument listed: > The way one should cut a Kiwi Fruit in half (along its length or across the middle). As a Kiwi myself, I will say I have never ever seen anyone cut a kiwi fruit along its length. That is simply insane.
- PhilipRoman 2y ago
  I usually cut them along the length (unpeeled) and eat the contents out with a spoon. Cutting it this way reduces chances of spoon breaking the peel.
- koonsolo 2y ago
  Why cut a kiwi? I just eat it whole.
- nzealand 2y ago
  Why... it creates a nice symmetrical look on cakes/ pies/ pav https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a78426/kiwi-pie/ https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a78426/...
- anal_reactor 2y ago
  Of course you cut it along its length, it's easier to eat the inside with a spoon.
- itslennysfault 2y ago
  I don't usually cut them. Just peel them with a spoon (or potato peeler) and bite into it like an apple or cut it into slices ...but agreed, never lengthwise slices.
  - mr_mitm 2y ago
    I just eat them with the peel. Try it, it's not as weird as it sounds.
- flappyeagle 2y ago
  That’s the only way I cut them. Sometimes it takes an outsider to optimize
jjk166 2y ago
> I eat two-fingered Kit-Kats like I'd eat any other chocolate bars of that size, i.e., without feeling the need to snap them into two individual fingers first. Margret accused me of doing this, 'deliberately to annoy her'. Welp, looks like I'm team Margaret
balls187 2y ago
The pocket thing is real. As a man, I just never understood that. Perks of dating a high-end fashion designer.
- jdhzzz 2y ago
  I imagine most people when reading this think: "I can see that, anything for fashion." Shrug and think nothing more of it. What would the reaction be were the sexes reversed and the guy said: "Please put my wallet and phone in your purse, I've no pockets."
anonym29 2y ago
Friendly reminder that for any sites served over HTTP rather than HTTPS, anyone with access to the traffic between you and the server has the opportunity to inject content of their choice into the page via a man-in-the-middle attack, including JS to be executed by your browser. That can include all manner of complex exploits, sandbox escapes, etc - regardless of the trustworthiness of the content producer themselves. This is an inherent, unavoidable additional risk you are accepting when you retrieve content over HTTP instead of HTTPS - a risk that content producers are unknowingly foisting upon their viewers by neglecting to even offer their content over HTTPS. The type of attack I've mentioned, a MiTM, is so trivial to pull off with freely available tools that teenagers were doing this decades ago - this is not a complex, sophisticated attack with a high technical knowledge barrier to carry out, this is something your 12-year-old nephew can do after watching a few youtube videos.
- deleted 2y ago
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- fragmede 2y ago
  The technical competence to pull off this attack is low, but being in a position of privilege is difficult. I could kill someone by adding some poison to their food, but more importantly I'd have to poison food they're going to eat. I can trivially add posion to food I cook in my house, but as my victim isn't going to eat that food, that's pointless. Similarly, in order to "poison" someone else's Internet with a Monster in the middle (MitM) attack, you need to get in a privileged position so as to do that. For people using a smartphone on a cellphone data plan, getting in that privileged position is beyond the capabilities of most 12-year olds, as they'd have to have privileged access into your cell phone provider. If, however that 12-year old is running an insecure wifi AP that you're using to get to the Internet, you're a bit more at risk. However, the poison in this metaphor is more difficult. A trivial script injection to open a popup is easy to do, but actually doing something harmful is far harder. Aka procuring a poision that only gives you a molds headache in this metaphor is easy, but getting arsenic/something that steals your bank account credentials is hard. Chrome is well hardened against attack, so while bugs do exist, they're not trivial to find and exploit. Which doesn't mean they won't by, but it does mean it's far less likely your 12-year old nephew has 0-days to burn.
b112 2y ago
There's actually a book, a novel he wrote, which isn't all that bad. I liked it. It's not directly as the webpage, although their relationship is in the book as a secondary, underlying theme. https://www.amazon.ca/Things-Girlfriend-Have-Argued-About-ebook/dp/B00GVFPAO4/ https://www.amazon.ca/Things-Girlfriend-Have-Argued-About-eb...
vhiremath4 2y ago
Honest question - how many other people on HN are in a relationship this fiery? Are you mostly enjoying it or not enjoying it? Do you all believe this is an inevitability for most couples who have just been together for a long time? Context: I just broke up with my girlfriend a few days ago because we would get into arguments regularly around topics that didn’t seem surpassable (values, negative feedback loop insecurity types, etc.) and would leave both of us drained. I just didn’t want that amount of anxiety in my life. I 100% understand that some people are totally cool with it though and don’t have an issue at all.
- lucifargundam 2y ago
  My wife and I verbally argue nearly daily about many things. But we usually work things out over time. Fast forward much time later-(days, months, etc) such topics 90% of the time are no longer important enough for either of us to really care about talking about them. We're happy _enough_ , what usually impacts us as a couple is the frustrations we individually feel with external factors- not each other. Think of two fish stuck in a bowl they outgrew- any hostilities are not particularly with each other, but the result of their environment. The usual consensus between us is usually summed up to "yeah, this moment is hard for us- but we've been through worse and we'll keep working hard to get to the next stage in life". That being said, we both have our own issues from before we met each other- but we actively want to better ourselves and are trying to overcome our own flaws while accepting the each other as they are. Communication is hard, conflicting thoughts and emotions between cohabitants is hard, but if it were too easy- there might occur a paranoia of it being fake. The ability to resolve conflict and work together as a team is what will ultimately determine the strength and duration of a relationship. That's not something that's easily learned or often taught... and I would not depend on books alone for such life lessons.
  - vhiremath4 2y ago
    Yeah great advice. We both really tried. We committed to working through things. We saw a couple’s therapist. We went through some pretty intense ups and downs on both our ends ranging from a death of a very close family member of hers to layoffs at my company and many other things. I just found that, ultimately, it still didn’t feel worth it based on how we would communicate and trigger each other even when we tried. And we would just keep going because we wanted to fight for the relationship, despite it continuing to not make a ton of progress. I guess that’s the “not depending on books alone” part of your comment. It feels like I’ve gained some really important life experience, but I just haven’t fully processed it or been able to make sense of it. Funny enough, I’m making more sense of it with time and with comments like the ones here. Thank you for your comment!
sergix 2y ago
I believe the point is multifaceted: 1. Relationships are hard. 2. If you take a step back and look at the things you argue with your significant other about (or anyone else close to you), it's humbling to see how silly it often is. 3. Love doesn't always agree; if you actually hated the person, why would you stick with them through the annoyances and arguments instead of leaving? Sure, the whole thing seems unhealthy and petty, but I think that he would have stopped writing a lot sooner if he didn't truly love her. I also think the slightly-hidden image at the very bottom left of the page says a lot more than any of his words do.
- thrwaway1985882 2y ago
  > If you take a step back and look at the things you argue with your significant other about (or anyone else close to you), it's humbling to see how silly it often is. One piece of advice I got from an old family friend when getting married two decades ago ... the next time you find yourself arguing with your spouse, when you feel that slight bit of anger or annoyance bubbling up, lift your shirt up and show them your belly button. You don't have to stop talking, just lift your shirt up and show your belly button while you're making whatever point you are making. I've tried this a few times and it works wonders - doing something silly makes me stop and realize how silly the argument I'm in is.
- balls187 2y ago
  > if you actually hated the person Just my 2c, but hate isn't the opposite of love. Apathy is the opposite of love.
b112 2y ago
If anyone cares, he used to have a mailing list, with emails such as this (Mon, 13 Jun 2005): Good day, my handsomes. Demonstrating the sedulity for which I am rightly famous, it's another full-size Mail this time. A colossal, sprawling thing, packed full of work-dodging nourishment: to you, a warm bath of idleness in which to soak; to your parsimonious employer, both a thumb and a nose.Its varied time-wasting confections include: 1) A small anecdote that, if you're a women, will have you valuing your partner all the more, or, if you're a man, may be recounted at a crucial moment as a defence for your otherwise wholly unacceptable behaviour. Basically: Women - See? It could be worse; Men - Here, let Mil take a bullet for you. 2) A few links to things to which I said, in some moments of weakness, I'd provide links. 3) Want to be a writer, eh? That's because you know nothing. Get the opportunity to 'be' me for the duration of a questionnaire, and experience the reality of life as a novelist in all its disorientating horror. 4) Probably some bridging sentences. "But, how do I read this Mail?" you howl, clawing at your cheeks and running about setting fire to things like Rochester's first wife. Well, in the usual way, of course. What are you, dim? You know the rules: no dim people are allowed on this List - unsub now and go back to the Internet, dimmy. For the rest of you scented and verifiably undim Mailing Listers, the standard methods apply: To read the Mail online, visit here: http://microurl.com/mil/sixsquared http://microurl.com/mil/sixsquared Or, to receive it as a near-instant auto-reply in your Inbox, send an email to: gummibandpost@mil.theweekly.co.uk (mailto:gummibandpost@mil.theweekly.co.uk) (NTL continues to be rubbish, and analysts expect it to remain so until we're all dead in the ground. So, the auto-reply service in now provided by a cage of urchins at The Weekly. Hurrah for The Weekly and its keen-eyed exploitation of Science and foundlings.) As you are aware, the method you choose to employ is down to nothing more than how best to bypass the particular filters your company has decided - ineffectively, but still to its lasting shame - to employ. So, put aside all thoughts of labour while you spin away a few minutes at the Mail. It is Monday. Far better to not to jump straight back into work with jarring abruptness after the weekend's pause: that way lies only personal injury. Mil. -- Things My Girlfriend And I Have Argued About http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mil.millington/things.html http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mil.millington/things.html (To leave this list, go to http://theweekly.co.uk/mil_mailing_list/index.cgi?a=mil-millington.com:l8r.net&b=Unsubscribe http://theweekly.co.uk/mil_mailing_list/index.cgi?a=mil-mill...
NoMoreNicksLeft 2y ago
This will become evidence in a murder trial or a divorce trial, or possibly in a divorce trial and then later a murder trial. If called for jury duty I would want to cheat and say something obnoxiously ignorant to be released, but now having read the blog post I think I have a legitimate excuse.
boomboomsubban 2y ago
>When Margret used to go shopping and she'd see, for example, a pair of jeans in a department store, do you know what she used to do? Try them on. I think you're all with me here, but just for anyone who's joined us late, I don't mean she'd go to the changing rooms and try them on. That would be a preposterous idea wouldn't it? No, she'd just get undressed there in the middle of the sales floor to try them on. It took me some considerable time to persuade her that this wasn't normal behaviour in Britain, despite what she might have seen on Benny Hill. Even then, she only stopped - amid much eye-rolling and, 'You and your silly social conventions,' Was this ever the norm in Germany? Ignoring any prudish complaints, it'd seem like a pain for other shoppers.

136 points by Tomte 2y ago

xanadu132 2y ago

"She really over-reacts whenever she catches me wearing her underwear."

egypturnash 2y ago

Best Of The Old Web, right there.

KoftaBob 2y ago

> We're staying at a German friend's flat in Berlin and he brings out the photo album, as people do when conversational desperation has set in. It's largely pictures of a holiday he went on with Margret and a few friends several years previously. And consists pretty much entirely of shots of Margret naked. On what planet is this ok?

datavirtue 2y ago
Germany.
J_cst 2y ago
I believe in some countries in northern Europe that's not as wild as it may sound. I'm European

glitchc 2y ago

She sounds contrarian. Some people (of either gender) are naturally like that. They'll argue for the sake of arguing. It's quite draining and can really wear on you after a while. Best to find someone else. Why do they do this? The reasons aren't exactly singular. For some it's tied to deep-seated insecurity, for others it's a matter of pride/principle. And sometimes it's the only way that they know how to interact with others. This set has a strong overlap with the set of people who offer their opinion without being asked.

every 2y ago

My wife and I have been together for 46 years, 44 of them married. Yet we still make each other giggle, grin and blow milk out our noses every day. Sarcasm is our native language. Our interests are wildly different but that is of little import. Either you are compatible or you aren't...

drekipus 2y ago

Margaret sounds like my psychotic foster parent that would religiously abuse me. This really isn't cute. This is psychotic. Both that it describes and then writing about like this. This is what boomers think "cute quirky relationship" is?

djaouen 2y ago

Well this surely isn't a huge waste of time and money lol

binary132 2y ago

Clearly content from back when Someone’s Funny Website existed. Those were the days.

walthamstow 2y ago

I didn't know there was more than one way to say Jonathan

pentamassiv 2y ago
It's pronounced differently in German
- holografix 2y ago
  In German it’s JOHNATHAN
balls187 2y ago
Indians would say "Jo nahhthan"
mttpgn 2y ago
Joe-Nathan? Yonatan?
- more_corn 2y ago
  Or the correct way John-athan.
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    Jonnyboy?

911e 2y ago

That’s the real, old school web, thx for the submission

agumonkey 2y ago
Interestingly the older simpler the design, the less dopamine-imbalance I feel. Those sites I can read patiently.. anything modern will turn my brain into impatience impaired click machine.
- benterix 2y ago
  Everybody needs to learn this lesson themselves, and it needs time to sink in. The result is you more consciously choose how you spend your precious time.

leosanchez 2y ago

Holy shit it's long. Even AI can't generate that.

rossant 2y ago

Follow up here: http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/main.html http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/main.ht... My eyes are bleeding though.

machine_coffee 2y ago
Oh Man, I think I have a candidate for the Apology Homepage.

chungy 2y ago

What does it mean to "eat my tea"? Isn't it normally made as a drink? I suppose you can eat tea leaves, never heard of someone doing so...

iamstupidsimple 2y ago
In the north of the UK, dinner=lunch and tea=dinner.
maccard 2y ago
Tea is another name for the main evening meal (Dinner) in the UK
- chungy 2y ago
  Thanks, I didn't know that, being from the US myself.
- timthorn 2y ago
  Of course, there's also afternoon tea consists of the drink as well as cake, sandwiches, fancies and scones. And the subset cream tea, with scones, cream & jam.

hombre_fatal 2y ago

Is this supposed to be cute? Just seems like a pathetic relationship. I don’t understand the context.

CoastalCoder 2y ago
> Is this supposed to be cute? Just seems like a pathetic relationship. I don’t understand the context. I can imagine two very different ways to interpret that page: a) Margaret is in on it, and considers it a hilarious comedy roast of her quirks. b) He's genuinely complaining to the entire planet, publicly, about what he sees as Margaret's faults.
- bruce343434 2y ago
  c) it's made up entirely
codebolt 2y ago
If you happen to find yourself in a relationship where arguments never happen, then by all means. But as someone married to his own Margaret for the past decade I find many of these hilariously relatable. Even if she can drive me to the brink sometimes (and vice versa), I still very much love her, and when looking at it soberly the good far outweighs the "bad". Taking a bit of craziness on the chin now and then is a minor nuisance compared to many other problems in this life, and a price I'll happily keep paying for the sake of my family.
datavirtue 2y ago
You might learn, one day. Unless you already know everything.
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flappyeagle 2y ago
It’s cute. You must be single

monkpit 2y ago

Real “take my wife, please” vibes. Reading this hurts, and not just because of the colors.

layer8 2y ago
You may have missed the paragraph starting with: “As you know, this page attracts idiots. We sit here in the gentle glow of thousands of work hours being burned away, and passing idiots are bewitched by the light. They fly towards us and peer in, only to become disorientated and upset. They attempt to enter, but succeed no further than repeatedly banging their poor, bemused little faces against the glass: trying, trying, trying... but never quite grasping the situation. […]”
Der_Einzige 2y ago
I wonder if they publish their fetlife handle on their website :^)

yabones 2y ago

This seems very normal and healthy.

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spitfire 2y ago

I miss the old internet.

0xbadcafebee 2y ago

People will upvote literally anything on this website as long as it's novel

jdhzzz 2y ago
It's a feature, not a bug.
gkoberger 2y ago
And I'm okay with that! As other people have noted, this is a relic of the old internet. I think we're all sick of the same generic cookie-cutter dribble being monetized and pushed in front of us. If there's a lesson to be learned... I'll remember this way more than I'll remember any template-y Launch HN SaaS site marketing page. We're all desperate for something different; something that stops us for a second like a little speed bump during our 8 hours of consuming the same pre-packaged generic crap over and over again.
kayodelycaon 2y ago
Apparently this is a piece of internet history. I offer up these two as well: http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html https://skippyslist.com/list/ https://skippyslist.com/list/

wpguy 2y ago

Honestly, I am with her on the KitKat argument. You're a monster. /s

teruakohatu 2y ago

The first argument listed: > The way one should cut a Kiwi Fruit in half (along its length or across the middle). As a Kiwi myself, I will say I have never ever seen anyone cut a kiwi fruit along its length. That is simply insane.

PhilipRoman 2y ago
I usually cut them along the length (unpeeled) and eat the contents out with a spoon. Cutting it this way reduces chances of spoon breaking the peel.
koonsolo 2y ago
Why cut a kiwi? I just eat it whole.
nzealand 2y ago
Why... it creates a nice symmetrical look on cakes/ pies/ pav https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a78426/kiwi-pie/ https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a78426/...
anal_reactor 2y ago
Of course you cut it along its length, it's easier to eat the inside with a spoon.
itslennysfault 2y ago
I don't usually cut them. Just peel them with a spoon (or potato peeler) and bite into it like an apple or cut it into slices ...but agreed, never lengthwise slices.
- mr_mitm 2y ago
  I just eat them with the peel. Try it, it's not as weird as it sounds.
flappyeagle 2y ago
That’s the only way I cut them. Sometimes it takes an outsider to optimize

jjk166 2y ago

> I eat two-fingered Kit-Kats like I'd eat any other chocolate bars of that size, i.e., without feeling the need to snap them into two individual fingers first. Margret accused me of doing this, 'deliberately to annoy her'. Welp, looks like I'm team Margaret

balls187 2y ago

The pocket thing is real. As a man, I just never understood that. Perks of dating a high-end fashion designer.

jdhzzz 2y ago
I imagine most people when reading this think: "I can see that, anything for fashion." Shrug and think nothing more of it. What would the reaction be were the sexes reversed and the guy said: "Please put my wallet and phone in your purse, I've no pockets."

anonym29 2y ago

Friendly reminder that for any sites served over HTTP rather than HTTPS, anyone with access to the traffic between you and the server has the opportunity to inject content of their choice into the page via a man-in-the-middle attack, including JS to be executed by your browser. That can include all manner of complex exploits, sandbox escapes, etc - regardless of the trustworthiness of the content producer themselves. This is an inherent, unavoidable additional risk you are accepting when you retrieve content over HTTP instead of HTTPS - a risk that content producers are unknowingly foisting upon their viewers by neglecting to even offer their content over HTTPS. The type of attack I've mentioned, a MiTM, is so trivial to pull off with freely available tools that teenagers were doing this decades ago - this is not a complex, sophisticated attack with a high technical knowledge barrier to carry out, this is something your 12-year-old nephew can do after watching a few youtube videos.

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fragmede 2y ago
The technical competence to pull off this attack is low, but being in a position of privilege is difficult. I could kill someone by adding some poison to their food, but more importantly I'd have to poison food they're going to eat. I can trivially add posion to food I cook in my house, but as my victim isn't going to eat that food, that's pointless. Similarly, in order to "poison" someone else's Internet with a Monster in the middle (MitM) attack, you need to get in a privileged position so as to do that. For people using a smartphone on a cellphone data plan, getting in that privileged position is beyond the capabilities of most 12-year olds, as they'd have to have privileged access into your cell phone provider. If, however that 12-year old is running an insecure wifi AP that you're using to get to the Internet, you're a bit more at risk. However, the poison in this metaphor is more difficult. A trivial script injection to open a popup is easy to do, but actually doing something harmful is far harder. Aka procuring a poision that only gives you a molds headache in this metaphor is easy, but getting arsenic/something that steals your bank account credentials is hard. Chrome is well hardened against attack, so while bugs do exist, they're not trivial to find and exploit. Which doesn't mean they won't by, but it does mean it's far less likely your 12-year old nephew has 0-days to burn.

b112 2y ago

There's actually a book, a novel he wrote, which isn't all that bad. I liked it. It's not directly as the webpage, although their relationship is in the book as a secondary, underlying theme. https://www.amazon.ca/Things-Girlfriend-Have-Argued-About-ebook/dp/B00GVFPAO4/ https://www.amazon.ca/Things-Girlfriend-Have-Argued-About-eb...

vhiremath4 2y ago

Honest question - how many other people on HN are in a relationship this fiery? Are you mostly enjoying it or not enjoying it? Do you all believe this is an inevitability for most couples who have just been together for a long time? Context: I just broke up with my girlfriend a few days ago because we would get into arguments regularly around topics that didn’t seem surpassable (values, negative feedback loop insecurity types, etc.) and would leave both of us drained. I just didn’t want that amount of anxiety in my life. I 100% understand that some people are totally cool with it though and don’t have an issue at all.

lucifargundam 2y ago
My wife and I verbally argue nearly daily about many things. But we usually work things out over time. Fast forward much time later-(days, months, etc) such topics 90% of the time are no longer important enough for either of us to really care about talking about them. We're happy _enough_ , what usually impacts us as a couple is the frustrations we individually feel with external factors- not each other. Think of two fish stuck in a bowl they outgrew- any hostilities are not particularly with each other, but the result of their environment. The usual consensus between us is usually summed up to "yeah, this moment is hard for us- but we've been through worse and we'll keep working hard to get to the next stage in life". That being said, we both have our own issues from before we met each other- but we actively want to better ourselves and are trying to overcome our own flaws while accepting the each other as they are. Communication is hard, conflicting thoughts and emotions between cohabitants is hard, but if it were too easy- there might occur a paranoia of it being fake. The ability to resolve conflict and work together as a team is what will ultimately determine the strength and duration of a relationship. That's not something that's easily learned or often taught... and I would not depend on books alone for such life lessons.
- vhiremath4 2y ago
  Yeah great advice. We both really tried. We committed to working through things. We saw a couple’s therapist. We went through some pretty intense ups and downs on both our ends ranging from a death of a very close family member of hers to layoffs at my company and many other things. I just found that, ultimately, it still didn’t feel worth it based on how we would communicate and trigger each other even when we tried. And we would just keep going because we wanted to fight for the relationship, despite it continuing to not make a ton of progress. I guess that’s the “not depending on books alone” part of your comment. It feels like I’ve gained some really important life experience, but I just haven’t fully processed it or been able to make sense of it. Funny enough, I’m making more sense of it with time and with comments like the ones here. Thank you for your comment!

sergix 2y ago

I believe the point is multifaceted: 1. Relationships are hard. 2. If you take a step back and look at the things you argue with your significant other about (or anyone else close to you), it's humbling to see how silly it often is. 3. Love doesn't always agree; if you actually hated the person, why would you stick with them through the annoyances and arguments instead of leaving? Sure, the whole thing seems unhealthy and petty, but I think that he would have stopped writing a lot sooner if he didn't truly love her. I also think the slightly-hidden image at the very bottom left of the page says a lot more than any of his words do.

thrwaway1985882 2y ago
> If you take a step back and look at the things you argue with your significant other about (or anyone else close to you), it's humbling to see how silly it often is. One piece of advice I got from an old family friend when getting married two decades ago ... the next time you find yourself arguing with your spouse, when you feel that slight bit of anger or annoyance bubbling up, lift your shirt up and show them your belly button. You don't have to stop talking, just lift your shirt up and show your belly button while you're making whatever point you are making. I've tried this a few times and it works wonders - doing something silly makes me stop and realize how silly the argument I'm in is.
balls187 2y ago
> if you actually hated the person Just my 2c, but hate isn't the opposite of love. Apathy is the opposite of love.

b112 2y ago

If anyone cares, he used to have a mailing list, with emails such as this (Mon, 13 Jun 2005): Good day, my handsomes. Demonstrating the sedulity for which I am rightly famous, it's another full-size Mail this time. A colossal, sprawling thing, packed full of work-dodging nourishment: to you, a warm bath of idleness in which to soak; to your parsimonious employer, both a thumb and a nose.Its varied time-wasting confections include: 1) A small anecdote that, if you're a women, will have you valuing your partner all the more, or, if you're a man, may be recounted at a crucial moment as a defence for your otherwise wholly unacceptable behaviour. Basically: Women - See? It could be worse; Men - Here, let Mil take a bullet for you. 2) A few links to things to which I said, in some moments of weakness, I'd provide links. 3) Want to be a writer, eh? That's because you know nothing. Get the opportunity to 'be' me for the duration of a questionnaire, and experience the reality of life as a novelist in all its disorientating horror. 4) Probably some bridging sentences. "But, how do I read this Mail?" you howl, clawing at your cheeks and running about setting fire to things like Rochester's first wife. Well, in the usual way, of course. What are you, dim? You know the rules: no dim people are allowed on this List - unsub now and go back to the Internet, dimmy. For the rest of you scented and verifiably undim Mailing Listers, the standard methods apply: To read the Mail online, visit here: http://microurl.com/mil/sixsquared http://microurl.com/mil/sixsquared Or, to receive it as a near-instant auto-reply in your Inbox, send an email to: gummibandpost@mil.theweekly.co.uk (mailto:gummibandpost@mil.theweekly.co.uk) (NTL continues to be rubbish, and analysts expect it to remain so until we're all dead in the ground. So, the auto-reply service in now provided by a cage of urchins at The Weekly. Hurrah for The Weekly and its keen-eyed exploitation of Science and foundlings.) As you are aware, the method you choose to employ is down to nothing more than how best to bypass the particular filters your company has decided - ineffectively, but still to its lasting shame - to employ. So, put aside all thoughts of labour while you spin away a few minutes at the Mail. It is Monday. Far better to not to jump straight back into work with jarring abruptness after the weekend's pause: that way lies only personal injury. Mil. -- Things My Girlfriend And I Have Argued About http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mil.millington/things.html http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mil.millington/things.html (To leave this list, go to http://theweekly.co.uk/mil_mailing_list/index.cgi?a=mil-millington.com:l8r.net&b=Unsubscribe http://theweekly.co.uk/mil_mailing_list/index.cgi?a=mil-mill...

NoMoreNicksLeft 2y ago

This will become evidence in a murder trial or a divorce trial, or possibly in a divorce trial and then later a murder trial. If called for jury duty I would want to cheat and say something obnoxiously ignorant to be released, but now having read the blog post I think I have a legitimate excuse.

boomboomsubban 2y ago

>When Margret used to go shopping and she'd see, for example, a pair of jeans in a department store, do you know what she used to do? Try them on. I think you're all with me here, but just for anyone who's joined us late, I don't mean she'd go to the changing rooms and try them on. That would be a preposterous idea wouldn't it? No, she'd just get undressed there in the middle of the sales floor to try them on. It took me some considerable time to persuade her that this wasn't normal behaviour in Britain, despite what she might have seen on Benny Hill. Even then, she only stopped - amid much eye-rolling and, 'You and your silly social conventions,' Was this ever the norm in Germany? Ignoring any prudish complaints, it'd seem like a pain for other shoppers.