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right but at least google will tell you. brave a lot more shady and just wont say anything or let you opt out. many examples in the past. imagine if they were

right but at least google will tell you. brave a lot more shady and just wont say anything or let you opt out. many examples in the past. imagine if they were anywhere near a quarter of googles size it wouldnt be pretty imo.

arktos_ 2y ago
the only two browsers, Chrome and Brave
- pennybanks 2y ago
  i mean theres really only 2 relevant ones and the other one is because its owned by the most popular phone manufacture and is the only option. ofc we can use anything we want but in terms of real world relevance. and i guess the other one is forced by the most popular OS.
- malfist 2y ago
  That doesn't make a bit of sense. There's plenty of browsers, there's chrome, brave, firefox, opera, edge and safari, those are the big ones. There's also a ton of spinoffs like ice weasel or that browser Kagi is developing that I can't remember the name of. Way more than just two chromium browsers in existence.
  - bloopernova 2y ago
    Orion, based upon Safari. https://kagi.com/orion/ https://kagi.com/orion/
  - dialup_sounds 2y ago
    Vivaldi users: ::autistic screeching::
  - arktos_ 2y ago
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notpushkin 2y ago
Could you elaborate?
- pennybanks 2y ago
  vpn incident for one and their refusal the change initially or admit any wrong doing which i mean is the theme for every controversy they go through
Vinnl 2y ago
I wouldn't count the Privacy Sandbox doublespeak as "telling you". Brave is not my browser, but it seems completely unjustified to just put them on the same (or even lower) level as Chrome.
bad_user 2y ago
This is wrong. All settings in Brave with an impact on user privacy are opt-in. They even inform you of their product metrics, when you first start it, despite having a paper on how they anonymize that data. Versus Firefox, which never bothered. Firefox, which also added metrics for ads, similar with Privacy Sandbox, without informing users. I've never seen a browser with such a strong focus on privacy, the only contender it has being LibreWolf. The hate against Brave on this forum is completely unjustified and based on falsehoods, as if the issue isn't about Brave itself.
- radlad 2y ago
  > Brave has received negative press for diverting ad revenue from websites to itself,[30] collecting unsolicited donations for content creators without their consent,[43] suggesting affiliate links in the address bar[49] and installing a paid VPN service without the user's consent.[58] These are the primary issues I hear about regarding Brave on this forum. It's also founded by Brendan Eich who was forced out of Mozilla for his strong and vocal opposition of same-sex marriage. I tend to be a bit idealistic, but this is a strong reason for me to avoid Brave, especially when they are injecting content into pages.
  - ToValueFunfetti 2y ago
    Not that it makes him any less opposed to same-sex marriage, but I think 'vocal' is very much not the right word here. The only quotes I can find from him on the subject are him saying he's not going to talk about it.
    - asadotzler 2y ago
      "Unrepentant financial supporter of opposition to same-sex marriage" is a more accurate description.
      - pbhjpbhj 2y ago
        Basically, we got played, Eich made a private political action, someone used that to get rid of him and then Firefox starting paying 10x as much to their CEO, doing all sorts of anti-user stuff, acting in advertiser's favour (but not too overtly), and ultimately ditching their engineers so they could maintain the CEOs stupid pay. All while begging users for money.
smileson2 2y ago
that's false, why do you think that?

arktos_ 2y ago

the only two browsers, Chrome and Brave

pennybanks 2y ago
i mean theres really only 2 relevant ones and the other one is because its owned by the most popular phone manufacture and is the only option. ofc we can use anything we want but in terms of real world relevance. and i guess the other one is forced by the most popular OS.
malfist 2y ago
That doesn't make a bit of sense. There's plenty of browsers, there's chrome, brave, firefox, opera, edge and safari, those are the big ones. There's also a ton of spinoffs like ice weasel or that browser Kagi is developing that I can't remember the name of. Way more than just two chromium browsers in existence.
- bloopernova 2y ago
  Orion, based upon Safari. https://kagi.com/orion/ https://kagi.com/orion/
- dialup_sounds 2y ago
  Vivaldi users: ::autistic screeching::
- arktos_ 2y ago
  [dead]

notpushkin 2y ago

Could you elaborate?

pennybanks 2y ago
vpn incident for one and their refusal the change initially or admit any wrong doing which i mean is the theme for every controversy they go through

Vinnl 2y ago

I wouldn't count the Privacy Sandbox doublespeak as "telling you". Brave is not my browser, but it seems completely unjustified to just put them on the same (or even lower) level as Chrome.

bad_user 2y ago

This is wrong. All settings in Brave with an impact on user privacy are opt-in. They even inform you of their product metrics, when you first start it, despite having a paper on how they anonymize that data. Versus Firefox, which never bothered. Firefox, which also added metrics for ads, similar with Privacy Sandbox, without informing users. I've never seen a browser with such a strong focus on privacy, the only contender it has being LibreWolf. The hate against Brave on this forum is completely unjustified and based on falsehoods, as if the issue isn't about Brave itself.

radlad 2y ago
> Brave has received negative press for diverting ad revenue from websites to itself,[30] collecting unsolicited donations for content creators without their consent,[43] suggesting affiliate links in the address bar[49] and installing a paid VPN service without the user's consent.[58] These are the primary issues I hear about regarding Brave on this forum. It's also founded by Brendan Eich who was forced out of Mozilla for his strong and vocal opposition of same-sex marriage. I tend to be a bit idealistic, but this is a strong reason for me to avoid Brave, especially when they are injecting content into pages.
- ToValueFunfetti 2y ago
  Not that it makes him any less opposed to same-sex marriage, but I think 'vocal' is very much not the right word here. The only quotes I can find from him on the subject are him saying he's not going to talk about it.
  - asadotzler 2y ago
    "Unrepentant financial supporter of opposition to same-sex marriage" is a more accurate description.
    - pbhjpbhj 2y ago
      Basically, we got played, Eich made a private political action, someone used that to get rid of him and then Firefox starting paying 10x as much to their CEO, doing all sorts of anti-user stuff, acting in advertiser's favour (but not too overtly), and ultimately ditching their engineers so they could maintain the CEOs stupid pay. All while begging users for money.

smileson2 2y ago

that's false, why do you think that?