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> I've heard this one many times. I pay for news as part of my streaming TV subscription. Should I also pay the NY Times $325 a year for whatever it is that the

> I've heard this one many times. I pay for news as part of my streaming TV subscription. Should I also pay the NY Times $325 a year for whatever it is that they're selling? uHH...yes?? Hello? We used to pay $1 every day to buy newsPAPERs? Remember? Does this stuff being on the internet suddenly makes journalism a free labor or something?

noirbot 2y ago
Did we? I grew up middle-class and no one I knew got actual newspapers. That was always a marker for me of someone being rich. We maybe got weekly/monthly news magazines, but that's an order of magnitude cheaper.
- jmclnx 2y ago
  What years ? Even in the 80s and a good deal of the 90s, many people got and shared newspapers. They were everywhere. I remember them being 15, 25, 50 Cents through the years.
  - chgs 2y ago
    Certainly normal to read both a morning and evening paper on the commute in London well into the 00s
- anon-3988 2y ago
  Definitely did. Maybe not in your area, but many people here used to spend their idle times reading newspapers. Restaurants have them ready on the tables for people to consume as they come. Now its been replaced by phones. Newspapers was the only the way I could get any insights on the outer world. This was in 2000s and early 2010s. There were TVs but newspapers were the only method where I could stare at pictures from all over the world and read random people's opinion. No I didn't have internet back then.
Dylan16807 2y ago
> We used to pay $1 every day to buy newsPAPERs? Remember? I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Even today the local paper is a good chunk under that price, and if I forgo the actual printing then it's about a hundred dollars per year.
almatabata 2y ago
I only every bought like 2 newspapers regularly, canard enchainé (1.20 euros/per week) and monde diplomatique (5.40/per month). That comes around to 52 * 1.8 + 12 * 5.4 = 158.4 euros per year. So for half the price I get two newspapers with potentially different view on events. 325 euros per year sounds overpriced to me given that I like to hear multiple opinions from different publications. 325 to get access to 3-4 publications that only publishes weekly sounds good. You can also look at other french journals like mediapart who do investigative journalism. Even they only charge 120 a year (https://abo.mediapart.fr https://abo.mediapart.fr).

noirbot 2y ago

Did we? I grew up middle-class and no one I knew got actual newspapers. That was always a marker for me of someone being rich. We maybe got weekly/monthly news magazines, but that's an order of magnitude cheaper.

jmclnx 2y ago
What years ? Even in the 80s and a good deal of the 90s, many people got and shared newspapers. They were everywhere. I remember them being 15, 25, 50 Cents through the years.
- chgs 2y ago
  Certainly normal to read both a morning and evening paper on the commute in London well into the 00s
anon-3988 2y ago
Definitely did. Maybe not in your area, but many people here used to spend their idle times reading newspapers. Restaurants have them ready on the tables for people to consume as they come. Now its been replaced by phones. Newspapers was the only the way I could get any insights on the outer world. This was in 2000s and early 2010s. There were TVs but newspapers were the only method where I could stare at pictures from all over the world and read random people's opinion. No I didn't have internet back then.

Dylan16807 2y ago

> We used to pay $1 every day to buy newsPAPERs? Remember? I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Even today the local paper is a good chunk under that price, and if I forgo the actual printing then it's about a hundred dollars per year.

almatabata 2y ago

I only every bought like 2 newspapers regularly, canard enchainé (1.20 euros/per week) and monde diplomatique (5.40/per month). That comes around to 52 * 1.8 + 12 * 5.4 = 158.4 euros per year. So for half the price I get two newspapers with potentially different view on events. 325 euros per year sounds overpriced to me given that I like to hear multiple opinions from different publications. 325 to get access to 3-4 publications that only publishes weekly sounds good. You can also look at other french journals like mediapart who do investigative journalism. Even they only charge 120 a year (https://abo.mediapart.fr https://abo.mediapart.fr).