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> all because British people think an ID card means you'll get stopped on the street to show your papers. That's probably because all of the anti-immigration a
by ygjb 2y ago
> all because British people think an ID card means you'll get stopped on the street to show your papers.
That's probably because all of the anti-immigration and anti-foreigner people who are asking the government to stop people and ask them for their papers... this is not unique the the UK, Canada, or the United States either, and some of the countries plan to do more than just deport people.
Strong identity is increasingly a meaningful technical requirement, but glossing over the human impact of strong identity controls by the government is not going to have good outcomes either.
- pasc1878 2y agoNot really in Britain. Labour tried to introduce some national id in early 2000s, the right wingers were the ones who objected the most. The same right wingers who are most anti-immigration
- wsc981 2y agoI think most of those right wingers are against illegal immigration. There's a big distinction here. I think very few of those so-called right-wingers are -say- against doctors immigrating to one's country if there's a doctor shortage. As long as immigration is all done using legal means. And with proper checks and balances. I'm a right winger (but not born and raised in the UK). And I am very much against illegal immigration. I also don't want to be required to wear an identity card / passport with me at all times. Actually, with proper immigration policies in place, the state can be sure that most people inside the state are legal, law-abiding citizens. I don't think in such cases it does make sense to require people to wear an id card with them at all times.
- pasc1878 2y agoYes they are against all immigrants.
- DiogenesKynikos 2y agoThere were just a series of mass race riots by right-wingers across the UK, in which they went around smashing up shops owned by immigrants and beating up people who don't look white. This isn't about illegal immigration. It's about racism.
- akimbostrawman 2y agoconveniently emitting the fact that this is a reaction to immigrants going around randomly attacking birtish people. If you aren't already consider workong for MSM.
- Dylan16807 2y agoThat doesn't make it any less racist! But please give some more details on that. The only case I've heard about was a single attacker who was incorrectly called an immigrant.
- akimbostrawman 2y agoIt adds context which people who manipulate the overtone window for political games and name calling like to exclude. The person was a immigrants child. Considering there obvious (violent) refusal to integrate they are too an immigrant.
- Dylan16807 2y agoIt's completely bonkers to have retaliation like that against a single attack that isn't part of a pattern. Like, that context arguably makes it worse than if there was no inciting incident, because it's so blatantly blaming a huge group for one person.
- DiogenesKynikos 2y agoIt's like justifying pogroms against Jews because one Jewish person committed a crime. It's racist and utterly disgusting.
- BlueTemplar 2y agoYeah, id cards aren't mandatory in France either because the precedent when they were comes from literal Nazis. (At least theoretically, in practice you will face a lot of pressure...)