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Got new LG OLED. Also got Nvidia Shield TV Pro. LG has no connection to the internet, Shield's home page is the only thing I see when TV turns on. No ads, no ha
by nixass 2y ago
Got new LG OLED.
Also got Nvidia Shield TV Pro.
LG has no connection to the internet, Shield's home page is the only thing I see when TV turns on. No ads, no hassle, one remote for all, fully customer controlled environment
- GaryNumanVevo 2y agoDoesn't the Shield TV Pro have ads now?
- compsciphd 2y agoonly in certain countries it seems. When I'm VPNd into the US for an extended period of times ads pop up, but when I disable it, they relatively quickly go away.
- vetinari 2y agoThis seems to be changing; I'm getting the two rows with shows I don't care about and cannot be disabled in Europe too.
- coremoff 2y agoI've never seen one on mine - behind a pihole though. It does push paid content (as in rented/purchased movies/tv shows); I don't consider these to be adverts, per se, but obviously you might.
- nickthegreek 2y agoChanging the default launcher allows you to solve this.
- knolan 2y agoSimilar but with an Apple TV. It’s seriously one of Apple’s best products.
- ghaff 2y agoLow key, not expensive; they drive a couple old Panasonic plasma TVs I have. St one point, I was a big Chromecast fan but that seems to have been largely abandoned and Apple TV seems more functional.
- nicce 2y agoI still prefer Apple TV, no ads yet. But maybe time will come for that as well...
- fragmede 2y agoThey advertise for their other shows before the show you're actually trying to watch now though. sure it's not an ad for foot cream, but it's still an ad and I don't like it
- nicce 2y agoThat is specific to TV app, not to device thought. You can see some shows on the main menu on background by default, for me personally that is not problem, and I think you can customize that.
- systemtest 2y agoI got a new Apple TV out of the box and I got ads to buy movies from Apple.
- nicce 2y agoAre you confusing the OS with the Apple TV app? If you change the order of apps in home screen, first one is used by default to show the background information in home screen.
- jerrysievert 2y agoperhaps you don't see the ads that apple forces when you watch an appletv (the service, not the hardware) on the appletv (the hardware, not the service). plus almost every other app follows suit on the appletv (hardware, not the service), so that all apps on the appletv (hardware, not the service) end up having ads, not just the appletv (service, not the hardware) app on the appletv (hardware, not the service). nope, not confusing at all, but still lots of ads.
- Dennip 2y agoShame Nvidia have somewhat abandoned the Shield, great device, but no software updates for years now with several unresolved bugs. There is a popular guide for downgrading to v8 somewhere online as that is/was one of the more stable versions of the OS.
- arkh 2y ago> Shield's home page Is full of ads due to Android TV mandating it. No, I don't need to learn about this new show you have on some service I don't have a subscription to. No I don't want this app to setup an applet on the homepage. All I want is a list of apps, a settings button and a shut down one. On a plain black background with no moving part.
- weberer 2y agoYou want LibreElec.
- SSLy 2y agoor apple tv
- vetinari 2y agoIt is annoyance, but for now, there's a workaround (on Nvidia Shield): disable auto updates in Play Store, uninstall Android TV Home updates. You will get the old launcher, without nagging you about stuff you have no interest in.
- quickthrowman 2y agoApple TV is the least terrible commercial option
- frantathefranta 2y agoProjectivy launcher works pretty well.
- wccrawford 2y agoThis has been my solution for the Shield as well. It does the job well enough, with only an occasional weirdness or crash. And it starts up again quickly in those instances.
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- account42 2y agoLG isn't really different from Samsung here. Both show ads if you connect the TV to the internet and both don't if you use it as a dumb display.
- theshrike79 2y agoBut the LG isn't known for actively connecting to open WiFis automatically if you don't provide it with an internet connection
- ourmandave 2y agoDo Samsung TVs actually do that or is it internet bullsh*t?
- jerf 2y agoNo, that's not how you do it. Cunningham's Law requires a positive assertion: "Samsung TVs have NEVER spontaneously connected to Wifi. That's just internet BS." I know there are patents for it. There are patents for a lot of things that never make it to market. I'm not sure whether this has ever happened or people just assume the well-publicized (relatively speaking) patents mean it has actually happened. I've tended to guess that the legal implications of connecting to random hotspots are complicated enough to prevent it from happening at scale. It's clearly not a technical problem to hook up to hot spots set to be open without passwords, after all.
- account42 2y agoIt also might simply not be worth it with open hotspots not being that common anymore. Tbh, I'd expect TV manufacturers to ship a SIM with the TV before even seriously considering using random hotspots.
- jerf 2y agoYeah, an unhappy side effect of the bandwidth of 5G is that that may become economical, even for light video ads. I'm not sure they'd want to pay for really heavy video ads, but even that's probably coming into range. Previous gen could probably afford images, but I'd bet 4G video where the manufacturer is paying for the cell connection probably couldn't swing the price of video.
- wccrawford 2y agoI also got a new LG. I purposefully didn't connect it to the internet because of ads. What happens? I get a popup every few times I turn on the TV telling me that I can enable Alexa support by connecting it to the internet. It's an ad. For itself. I connected it to the internet. Now I get other ads in that way instead. LG is no savior in the anti-ad race.
- ape4 2y agoSo not Samsung or LG, then who?
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- glial 2y agoMy TCL has no ads and has quite good picture quality besides.
- wccrawford 2y agoUnfortunately, it appears that if you want a top-notch panel, you don't really have a good choice. If you're willing to settle for less than the best, there might be options. I didn't really look into them, though.
- user3939382 2y agoCommercial displays are more expensive but come without the crap.
- spennant 2y agoMoney not a problem? Get a "pro"/digital sign display and connect your own sound system as well as tuner/stb. https://www.lg.com/us/business/digital-signage/lg-65ep5g https://www.lg.com/us/business/digital-signage/lg-65ep5g https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/4k-uhd/qe-series/98-qec-series-450-nit-4k-uhd-display-lh98qecelgcxgo/ https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/4k-uhd/qe-serie...
- rbanffy 2y agoI do the same, but with an Apple TV. The TV set itself isn't networked.
- dfxm12 2y agoWhat OS does the Shield TV Pro run? Android? Linux? Something proprietary?
- Topfi 2y agoThey run near stock Android TV with very minor changes, really only Nvidia specific additions for upscaling and game streaming.
- dfxm12 2y agoOh. Do the changes including removing the ads? OP said they get no ads, but perhaps they were mistaken...
- wccrawford 2y agoNo, they don't. It uses the stock launcher, which had ads added to it a while back. You can use a different launcher like Projectivy instead, though.
- nicce 2y agoIn comparison, you can use Steam Link App with Apple TV to stream anything, and it works perfectly. 300 hours Elden Ring used for testing.
- charlie0 2y agoThis is the way. Also, get a Vero.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago"LG has no connection to the internet, ..." Then someone replies, "I connected it to the internet. Now I get ads ..." It's like commenters submitting replies just skip over certain sentences like they do not matter. What I am curious about is what happens if one gives the TV an internet connection but no DNS. I am assuming it gets its DNS server IPs from DHCP, TV owner controls DHCP and sets up a local authoritative DNS server with wildcard RR pointing every domain to nowhere.
- kotaKat 2y agoNope. God bless hardcoded DNS and DoH, among other things, taking network control so far away from the network owner all in the interests of advertising. The TVs will find their way around it, TikTok style.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 2y agoIf the DNS IP addresses are "hard-coded", then the TV owner can use a packet filter to redirect them to local addresses.
- yencabulator 2y agoThey tried connecting it to get rid of a recurring annoyance popup: > I get a popup every few times I turn on the TV telling me that I can enable Alexa support by connecting it to the internet. It's an ad. For itself.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 2y agoIf a popup asks someone to connect the TV to the internet, can that person ignore the popup. According to the parent comment, the TV still works without an internet connection. The decision whether to let the TV have an internet connection still rests with the TV owner, i.e., the internet subscriber. The one who pays the internet bill decides when internet connections are made. Software developers might believe someone else's bandwidth is theirs to use as they please. They might employ dark patterns to get "permission" or "consent". But neither developers nor advertisers are paying for the victim's internet connection. It is not their choice to make.