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I clicked assuming this was analyzing how hilariously expensive Images is compared to most of their offerings, but it's about how hilariously bad Images' paymen
by Scaevolus 2y ago
I clicked assuming this was analyzing how hilariously expensive Images is compared to most of their offerings, but it's about how hilariously bad Images' payment structure is. Nice!
> It’s likely that we will replace Cloudflare Images in the long run. Looking at storage costs alone, S3 would be 4 times less expensive for our use-case.
Cloudflare R2 would likely be a good choice too, if you're willing to bet that the (inevitable?) shakedown for money once you find the limits of "unlimited egress with no fees" won't be too bad.
- localfirst 2y agoR2 is still more expensive than other solutions I recommend idrive
- candiddevmike 2y agoSource?
- PROMISE_237 2y ago[flagged]
- CharlesW 2y agoiDrive pricing seems too good to be true, their focus is clearly consumers (which they target with shady "90% off for your first year" gimmicks), and I can't find any write-ups by developers using it for real products. Can you point me to anything which supports that they're a real option for more than consumer/developer hobbyist use?
- localfirst 2y agoits s3 compatible so there should be no hurdle in using it the price is their strong point but you shouldn't use S3 or any of the sort for any critical stuff in the first place. reply to comment below: if you require S3 support more than once a year then you definitely should not be using idrive but for the rest of us who don't need that idrive is a great alternative! You are most welcome ^_^
- CharlesW 2y agoIf that’s what you think, their S3 support must be truly garbage-level. That tracks, thank you!
- tootie 2y agoThe docs say it's possible to resize images from an external source like S3 using Cloudflare Images. It seems like it's not straightforward, but would be possible with some configuration.
- uyzstvqs 2y agoI'd recommend just going on-premise for storage. You can build a full system with more than enough RAID-1 storage which will have 100% ROI in a few months compared to what they're supposed to pay for Cloudflare Images. Just use that as a storage backend for your webservers in the cloud.
- adityapatadia 2y agoI would propose another solution. Use min.io to create object storage. It has all the advantages of RAID-1 and also gives S3-compatible API. This is only profitable if the data volume is huge though. For 5-10 TB, one is always best served by cloud storage providers like S3, R2 or Wasabi.
- spott 2y agoWhere are you going to put this box?
- jgrahamc 2y agoif you're willing to bet that the (inevitable?) shakedown for money once you find the limits of "unlimited egress with no fees" won't be too bad. R2 egress is free. There's no shakedown. If you look at https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-r2-object-storage https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-r2-object-storage (the original announcement) we said many times that egress is free. That's sort of R2's whole thing! See also: https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/r2/ https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/r2/ No egress charges Our affordable, consistent pricing helps free up resources across your organization — and you never have to pay egress fees for data accessed from R2.
- xmorse 2y agoIt's free until it isn't anymore
- ffsm8 2y agoEgress was pretty much always unmetered until AWS came along. And it still is with most providers other then the usual suspects (AWS,azure, Google cloud)
- toomuchtodo 2y agoRight, Cloudflare is operating in good faith, and while the deal could change (because business is business and sometimes the offering has to change), one should ensure they have other options available for egress from origin. That's not a Cloudflare issue, that's a vendor risk management issue. You should always have alternatives planned if a vendor's specific offering at a price point is a material component of your business costs.
- theamk 2y agounmetered != unlimited There might not be precise measurement system which bills you by the byte, but many provides monitor (or periodically sample) bandwidth utilization, so and using too much data will catch someone's attention. Example from Hetzer, which claims to provide "unlimited" traffic. https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use-notice-unlimited-unlimited https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use... > We will routinely check your traffic use. If we continue to see such a high amount, we may choose to cancel your contract.
- j45 2y agoBackblaze is interesting too for this kind of storage. Cloudflare is free but concerned it won’t be regularly. Someone’s paying for it sooner or layer
- adityapatadia 2y agoS3 costs seem low at start but their data transfer is very expensive at volume (~10 cent per GB) It's almost always best to use some sort of image processing service (like Gumlet.com) to optimise images and then pay lower per GB bandwidth costs.