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North Texas community says crypto-mining facility brings never-ending noise
- jmugan 2y agoUncontrollable noise is really stressful. I'm surprised that as a society we don't regulate noise better.
- masklinn 2y agoMost places do. Texas does not because something something burdensome to free enterprise (fracking is extremely noisy).
- coryrc 2y agoNot in the USA. Two Seattle examples: 1. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/us/seattle-belltown-hellcat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/us/seattle-belltown-hellc... 2. I had a neighbor who left her dog in the yard for 10 hours a day to bark constantly, every weekday, for six months. She had to pay a ~$250 fine by the end. That was the maximum allowed fine every few months.
- iluvcommunism 2y agoI dealt with this. I had the prosecutor refuse to do anything. I ended up moving with my family. We do not regulate noise well.
- shiroiushi 2y agoTexans don't like government regulations.
- jf 2y agoThe idea that Texans don't like government regulations isn't really backed by evidence. For example, the Cato Institute ranks Texas #17 in terms of overall freedom versus nearby states like Arizona which ranks #4 and Nevada which ranks #5. https://www.freedominthe50states.org/ https://www.freedominthe50states.org/
- shiroiushi 2y ago#17 is still higher in that ranking than the large majority of US states. Still, that's just the opinion of that organization. What's important is the opinions of the Texas voters, and they vote for politicians who generally oppose government regulation. I think it's extremely unlikely that they'll vote for anyone who promises to pass legislation to curb noise pollution.
- oldpersonintx 2y ago[dead]
- daghamm 2y agoTexas is big in economic freedom and not that great in personal freedom unless it's about guns.
- jmugan 2y agoIt seems too loud just about everywhere.
- Yeul 2y agoWe do. This is just deregulated paradise Texas. I don't complain Texas supplies Europe with LNG and their carcinogenic sacrifice is appreciated.
- PcChip 2y agoI could swear I read this exact story years ago
- gnabgib 2y agoWell Time covered this in February (33 points, 52 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39235518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39235518 Then there was a story about North Carolina in 2023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34444618 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34444618 Another one from 2022 https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-crypto-mine-is-making-life-a-daily-hell-for-a-small-town-in-north-carolina?ref=home https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-crypto-mine-is-making-life-a...
- Lucent 2y agoI don't doubt these bring awful externalities, but children requiring cochlear implants due to hearing loss from a nearby datacenter?
- bastage 2y agoBut think about all those virtual coins worth absolutely nothing being "mined" ..?!
- chung8123 2y agoLoud noises slowly hurt the body from ears to brain. The effects are not instant but they are real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNd3Eo5bvvw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNd3Eo5bvvw
- brezelgoring 2y agoIt'd help build a case if they took measurements of noise around the property. I'm not saying it isn't true or anything like it but 'loud noise' can mean a multitude of things. I'd say my downstairs neighbors have jet engines in their house but sometimes it's just a vacuum cleaner and I'm a bit miffed that day. If they'd said that a sound level meter reported +80db at 500m or 1km away, that'd give readers and potential visitors a real measure of the problem and it's consequences. I'd have a nephew or younger sibling with some take on his hands to make measurements around it and make a graph with the sound levels at various radii and times of day, that'd build you a strong case for the factory being hazardous to health - and hopefully give you ammo for the upcoming legal trouble there'll be over there.
- sshine 2y ago> hopefully give you ammo for the upcoming legal trouble Alternatively, since this is Texas, just walk real close to the miners’ property; that’ll give you some ammo, too.
- Animats 2y agoIt's Texas. As long as an industry is below 85dbA at the property line, they're compliant with state law.[1] Some municipalities, notably Forth Worth, have lower limits. But the state limits the power of municipalities to regulate oil and gas mining. Fracking sites, unlike traditional oil wells, are quite noisy. [1] https://www.cailaw.org/media/files/IEL/ConferenceMaterial/2015/shale/tweston-paper.pdf https://www.cailaw.org/media/files/IEL/ConferenceMaterial/20...
- Sparkle-san 2y agoWhich is apparently about as loud as a vacuum or blender.
- ErikBjare 2y agoAt the property line.
- smarm52 2y ago[flagged]
- SapporoChris 2y agohttps://cryptonews.com/news/texas-jury-acquits-crypto-miner-marathon-of-noise-violations-following-local-residents-complaints.htm https://cryptonews.com/news/texas-jury-acquits-crypto-miner-... Texas Jury Acquits Marathon, from July 11, 2024 at 03:09 CDT Where the parent article is Updated on: July 21, 2024 / 3:40 PM CDT / CBS Texas I'm baffled at the reporting.
- tzs 2y agoIt's not really very relevant. First, it doesn't say why the jury acquitted. It mentions two different defenses that were offered. (1) The noise measurements were not accurate, and (2) the case was brought against the wrong defendant (the manager of the facility rather than the mining company). If they acquitted because of #2 then it is completely irrelevant. If they acquitted because of #1 then it just means that the jury didn't believe that the measurements done by the Constable were accurate. It doesn't mean that there is no noise problem or that the noise is under the legal limits.
- floppiplopp 2y agoWell, why NOT attack random people when you're already part of the greatest pyramid scheme in history? Also, apparently you CAN mess with Texas, or rather, with Texans quite easily.
- techwiz137 2y agoThis again? I can understand the sentiment 12 years ago, but now?
- rcxdude 2y agoHas anything changed?
- techwiz137 2y agohttps://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/07/23/blackrocks-spot-bitcoin-etf-draws-526m-in-net-inflows/ https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/07/23/blackrocks-spot-...
- pjturpeau 2y agoI miss the topic. Can you elaborate about what happened 12 years ago?
- techwiz137 2y agoThe poster is saying that cryptocurrency is a pyramid scheme. 12 years ago(or 13) in its infancy, you could've had this sentiment. But now you have ETFs, it's as legitimate as it comes.
- hluska 2y agoAn exchange traded fund is not a sign of legitimacy. Make your point but don’t bullshit - massive claims like this only make crypto seem sketchier.
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- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoNoise regulations are not just too lenient in most places, but they are also not enforced. It is also hard to enforce even if a city wants to because a lot of noises are intermittent. But mining facilities like this should be shut down because they have a continuous buzzing. Owners should be given retroactive fines.
- egberts1 2y agoDrove by Granbury, near decommissioned nuclear power plant. Legally deaf, I am. Literally could "Cum Feel The Noise" or something.
- jmclnx 2y agoSorry to hear, why don't you complaing to your state gov ? Works for me. Wait, nevermind Texas, a place were only the very rich has rights.
- josefritzishere 2y agoFake money wastes real energy and creates a real public nusiance.
- joshstrange 2y agoI can't believe they don't have a recording/video of the noise and noise level readings. I don't doubt there is noise but I'd like to better understand what they are hearing. Also, what about crypto mining is noisy? Is it massive fans or pumps for water? What am I missing? Actual mining is loud, that makes sense, but this is a datacenter, why is it so loud?
- phone8675309 2y agoOf course it's Granbury........
- RWfjh 2y ago[dead]