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Google Drive scans files for copyright infringement
- Hizonner 2y agoPeople not stupid enough to use Google's cloud services not affected.
- mass_and_energy 2y agoThis is unrelated to GCP. If you're going to be an abrasive tool then you should at the very least have some shred of an idea of what you're talking about, laddie
- Hizonner 2y agoGoogle Drive is a cloud service. Words have meanings outside of Google's brand names, Laddie.
- talldayo 2y agoThis makes sense, though. I know I'm not the only one who looked up "Shrek.mp4" on Google and got a literal sea of pirated movies hosted on Google Drive.
- gryn 2y agoit make sense on public content not on private stuff you're not opening to the public. I think most people have a sense of I can put what I want on my "Cloud" storage especially if it's something you're paying for.
- chrisjj 2y agoGoogle is presumably unable to determine that you paid for the right to copy this music file. Hence its "may".
- darby_nine 2y agoThat's not all they scan for: https://support.google.com/docs/thread/200185949/google-is-now-monitors-our-drives-for-sexually-explicit-material-excuse-me?hl=en https://support.google.com/docs/thread/200185949/google-is-n...
- sunaookami 2y agolol @ that guy LARPing as a Google employee. Reminds me of the Microsoft Answers forum.
- RockRobotRock 2y agoWow, imagine doing that for free.
- ec109685 2y agoIt’s annoying. They run interference for actual employees and allow them to not properly staff customer care forums.
- egberts1 2y agoWhat … properly … staffed … Google … support … forum?
- math0ne 2y agoAt least it used to be the case they only scan shared files.
- perihelions 2y agoFor convenience: the linked object is a text comment, plus a screenshot of text, - "so, google has scanned my recently filed scanned files and said it's a copyright infringement" - "Bro, tell me your Gemini datasplit?" > "Google" > "Your file may violate Google Drive's Terms of Service" > ""05 - You are always choosing.mp3" contains content that may violate Google Drive's Copyright Infringement policy. Some features related to this file may have been restricted. " > "Restricted file 05 - You are always choosing.mp3" - ""
- josefritzishere 2y agoAI is going to start deleting everything and locking us out of Google drive. It's coming.
- smrtinsert 2y agoThe year of the local cloud is just around the corner. My concern are books I buy from places like pragprog in pdf format. I feel like Google simply doesn't care and would ban on first offense.
- cynicalsecurity 2y agoThis is some Orwelian nonsense.
- mass_and_energy 2y agoHonestly. Does this mean that if someone takes a picture of their willy with Google Photos enabled, it'll censor myself from myself? Where does it end?
- sitkack 2y agoIt might get your account canceled
- harshreality 2y agoThis (the copyright scanning policy) isn't new, is it? What it's scanning for in this case is material it believes to be copyrighted, and restricts features (notably sharing) for content that matches. Given that copyright law exists, and that Google doesn't like wasting engineering time on legal stuff unless refusing to do it would result in lawsuits, this scanning policy is a fairly low-impact solution that has probably been deemed legally necessary to avoid media company lawsuits. I don't like it, but the alternative is for Google (and Microsoft, and any other cloud storage that allows sharing) to mount an expensive legal effort to try to overturn decades of digital copyright precedent, which is likely to fail.
- em3rgent0rdr 2y agoThe existence of copyright law is to blame. Not Google, who's just trying to adhere to law.
- rnd0 2y agoWhy not both?
- em3rgent0rdr 2y agoGood point.
- Hizonner 2y ago> What it's scanning for is material it believes to be copyrighted, All "material" created by any human is copyrighted, and has been for decades. The question is who owns what rights, which Google can't know. > decades of digital copyright precedent What precedent?
- djbusby 2y agoPrecedent: If you're hosting it you're guilty.
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- akaike 2y agoThey calculate hashes for files and probably compare them to already reported ones
- ricktdotorg 2y agotime to start changing the hash by adding a few bytes to your movies before uploading to Google Drive head -c 20 /dev/urandom >> movie.mp4 won't affect playback, will affect Google finding your pirated films.
- nick238 2y agoSeems like this would corrupt the file. There are plenty of metadata fields you could just put some crap in (or just transpose letters in an existing string so you don't need to change any length markers.
- ricktdotorg 2y agoi've never had any problems with playback using the major vid players on Linux with files i may or may not have used this trick on.
- nomel 2y agoI would really hope they would ignore the metadata, when computing the hash, for this very reason. Properly tagging films you download isn't exactly rare.
- toast0 2y agoMost media files are likely to tolerate random garbage tacked on to the end of the file. ID3v1 tags are essential proof of that; 128 bytes of garbage at the end that didn't cause any trouble with playback.
- wongarsu 2y agoThat depends on the container format, and with some container formats on the parser. Any container format designed to be streamable would by definition survive corruption at the end. Provided the player doesn't get too upset if any metadata at the end is corrupted, but e.g. VLC handles such things quite well
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- vander_elst 2y agoOn the other hand if that file is shared publicly, Google might be liable under some jurisdictions IIUC. I d assume that they check some hashes of the file against a database to check for copyright infringement. If only specific actions are not permitted on the file e.g. sharing it widely, this could seem reasonable? Curious to learn more, what could be other actions the service provider could take to avoid getting a lawsuit?
- user3939382 2y agoPut movies in a password protected zip.
- godzillabrennus 2y agoAt that point, just use Backblaze. It's reasonable in cost for "unlimited" and creates an encrypted prior to transit.
- mococa 2y agoFor this reason and others (I was a Google One family subscriber), I completely de-Googled myself.
- achrono 2y agoWhat a massive irony and a cruel joke. The headline should really be "Google Drive scans your files for copyright infringement", because this is copyright for me not for thee, at its absolute finest. I'm not even talking about Gemini's training data. Recall that it was Google that utterly nonchalantly scanned & stored some 40 million books, without seeking and obtaining permission from a single one of their authors. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild,_Inc._v._Google,_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild,_Inc._v._Google,....] Is the internet as we knew it drawing to a close?
- layman51 2y agoWhat is going on here? Is the person still able to download the file at least?
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- overstay8930 2y agoGoogle once again proving why even people who have nothing to hide have reasons to use End to End encryption. People laugh when I suggest iCloud but Apple isn’t pulling this shit and has mostly the same functionality a non-business user needs.
- booleandilemma 2y agoDoes onedrive do something similar? Glad I don't use google drive.
- OutOfHere 2y agoUse a foreign service like Mega.
- egberts1 2y agoso I bought a PDF book, will Google block that too as well?
- crazygringo 2y agoThey have for a long time, but it's only an issue if you share a file publicly. If you just keep files private on your Drive, or share them with specific other accounts but not to anyone with the link, there's no copyright scanning. All of this makes perfect sense because Google doesn't want people using their Drive accounts for mass sharing pirated content. While if you're just backing up your CD's and DVD's for personal private use, everything works fine, zero problems.
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- grumpy-cowboy 2y agoWhat about legal media files? In addition to be a software engineer I'm a DJ... I have near 1 TB of LEGAL music (mostly FLAC or high bitrate music files) on my OneDrive (easier because I use Virtual DJ). Yes I know it's not Google Drive but how they can make a difference between legal and illegal files? Note: I'm in a process to completely "de-googled, de-microsoft, ..." all my stuff (big self-hosted TrueNAS server with BlackBlaze backup).