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North Korea can take you with whatever justification they feel like and return you as a vegetable. I know the mass games look cool and people like to go to wei
by AtlasBarfed 2y ago
North Korea can take you with whatever justification they feel like and return you as a vegetable.
I know the mass games look cool and people like to go to weird places, please avoid North Korea
- Scoundreller 2y ago> North Korea can take you with whatever justification they feel like and return you as a vegetable. That’s most/all countries (or their embassies) you visit, no? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khash...
- someoneontenet 2y agoI’m sure some countries are more willing to treat guests to the vegetable treatment than others.
- victorbjorklund 2y agoA big political enemy of the saudi family that been a pain in their ass (rightly so since they are an evil dictatorship) vs random student that just took a poster as a souvernir. Not the same thing. Anyone can be killed in North Korea. 99,99999999999% of people are not on the saudi familys enemy list.
- BizarreByte 2y ago> random student that just took a poster as a souvernir. Let's not mince words here, he stole government property in a country with some of the harshest laws on earth. Did he deserve to die for it? No, but it was an incredibly stupid thing to do.
- yongjik 2y agoOne might even argue that the stupidity began when he decided to visit NK.
- kennyloginz 2y agoHis fellow travelers say this was impossible, the “recording” was fake, and the timestamps are at a time when he wasn’t even in the hotel. Why would you assume n. Korea is being honest here?
- themaninthedark 2y agoI would not say that I would assume that North Korea is being honest but what makes you think that his fellow travelers are being honest either?
- kennyloginz 2y agoHis fellow travelers were from many different countries
- Scoundreller 2y agoyeah for sure, because otherwise NK has fantastic relations with USA!
- damontal 2y agoNice victim blaming.
- BizarreByte 2y agoIt's no more victim blaming than being honest about what happens to people who visit Singapore with pot.
- pcwalton 2y agoI don't think it really makes sense to talk about "laws" for places like North Korea, as it's not a rule of law state.
- shiroiushi 2y agoPerhaps, but Saudi Arabia is pretty close to North Korea as far as my desire to ever visit the place. Both of them are extremely unappealing.
- rubytubido 2y ago> assassination by western trade partner VS assassination by isolated country Not the same thing!!!
- Etherlord87 2y agoIs an airplane the same thing as a car? After all, they both have wheels.
- andy81 2y agoOther countries have a larger denominator to reduce the proportion of visits vs arbitrary detention and torture.
- nkrisc 2y agoI feel a lot better about my chances in pretty much any other country than NK.
- smcl 2y agoI am sorry but if you travel somewhere like Iran or North Korea you are doing so explicitly against the advice of most governments. Every single person visiting these places is told that they need to keep their shit together, otherwise the consequences could be dire for them or for those they come into contact with.
- kstrauser 2y agoIran doesn't chill my blood in the same way imagining being in North Korea does. I have no desire to go there. I wouldn't go if offered. It still strikes me as a more or less rational country that stridently disagrees with my own country's politics (and my own), not a boot stamping on a human face — forever.
- smcl 2y agoHonestly I’d still like to visit both (particularly Iran) and I know people who have. But there is definitely advice you need to heed in both places (tbh in all places…)
- geoffreymcgill 2y agoI've been to both and can report a positive experience. The DPRK trip was fascinating. The thing I remember most about Iran is how friendly everyone was to us.
- tptacek 2y agoIf you've been to South Korea (and I haven't, only have a bunch of friends who have), was there anything fascinating about North Korea that you couldn't have gotten from South Korea and that didn't hinge on how messed up North Korea is? Genuinely curious.
- geoffreymcgill 2y ago> was there anything fascinating about North Korea that you couldn't have gotten from South Korea yes, a different perspective. EDIT/ADD: Witness one of the world’s most secretive states, firsthand experience of a communist regime, dynastic leadership, and a pervasive cult of personality.
- mschuster91 2y agoAdd Afghanistan to that list. Some Austrian far-right dumbass went there to make a YouTube video to claim Afghanistan were safe (obviously to justify deporting refugees there) - and lo behold, he got arrested by the Taliban on espionage charges and ultimately released after 9 extensive months of negotiations [1]. [1] https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/ausland/oesterreich-rechtsextremist-haft-afghanistan-entlassung-100.html https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/ausland/oesterreich-r...