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>This will result in some professions with extreme sex imbalance, and we should accept that outcome. We do accept it, for the most part. I don't see many Men-a

>This will result in some professions with extreme sex imbalance, and we should accept that outcome. We do accept it, for the most part. I don't see many Men-as-Teachers or Men-in-Nursing advocacy groups.

cultofmetatron 2y ago
>or Men-in-Nursing advocacy groups. thats been changing. mostly because there are more obese people now so you need male nurses to help them move around.
- Der_Einzige 2y ago
  Ozempic solves this problem in 10 years.
KittenInABox 2y ago
There's literally an American Association of Men In Nursing. Just googling "male teachers" gives me a ton of articles about the importance of hiring more men in teaching. Apparently NYC recently announced a huge investment into hiring more black/latino men in teaching or something? I'm always suspicious of "you don't see much of x" in spaces where x isn't the demographic being catered to. This isn't Nursing News or Teacher News, not to say that Nurses and Teachers can't also be hackers, technologists, etc. but this is clearly not a space oriented towards all things teaching or nursing, so questioning community advocacy within their communities strikes me as the wrong place.
goalonetwo 2y ago
That's because their woman advocacy is really a not-so-hidden lobby to have woman making more money under the pretense of equal representation in all jobs.
simplicio 2y ago
There's a lot of Men-in-Teaching advocacy, in part because its thought having male teachers tends to be beneficial for male students[1]. I think stuff like that is the main reason to be worried about gender imbalances. A 40-60 imbalance probably isn't a big deal, but once you get to like, 90-10 or worse, as is the case with early education, you start to get a bunch of secondary social problems. Kids who associate learning as a woman only thing, or the culture around engineering or software becoming "boys clubs" that become uncomfortable for the women who do want to work in those fields https://www.cuny.edu/academics/academic-programs/teacher-education-programs/nyc-men-teach/ https://www.cuny.edu/academics/academic-programs/teacher-edu...
- jimbokun 2y ago
  > There's a lot of Men-in-Teaching advocacy There are pundits saying this should be supported. Are there programs with real dollars behind them making actual changes?
  - simplicio 2y ago
    The one I linked to? But that was just the first one that came up on google, seems to be a fair number of similar programs in other states.
    - jimbokun 2y ago
      Sorry, missed the link. I hope those programs make a difference.
- mike_hearn 2y ago
  Your link isn't men-in-teaching advocacy, it's specifically about: > adding 1,000 male teachers of color into the teacher pipeline White men need not apply. If they were actually trying to solve a gender imbalance they wouldn't impose that criteria.

cultofmetatron 2y ago

>or Men-in-Nursing advocacy groups. thats been changing. mostly because there are more obese people now so you need male nurses to help them move around.

Der_Einzige 2y ago
Ozempic solves this problem in 10 years.

KittenInABox 2y ago

There's literally an American Association of Men In Nursing. Just googling "male teachers" gives me a ton of articles about the importance of hiring more men in teaching. Apparently NYC recently announced a huge investment into hiring more black/latino men in teaching or something? I'm always suspicious of "you don't see much of x" in spaces where x isn't the demographic being catered to. This isn't Nursing News or Teacher News, not to say that Nurses and Teachers can't also be hackers, technologists, etc. but this is clearly not a space oriented towards all things teaching or nursing, so questioning community advocacy within their communities strikes me as the wrong place.

goalonetwo 2y ago

That's because their woman advocacy is really a not-so-hidden lobby to have woman making more money under the pretense of equal representation in all jobs.

simplicio 2y ago

There's a lot of Men-in-Teaching advocacy, in part because its thought having male teachers tends to be beneficial for male students[1]. I think stuff like that is the main reason to be worried about gender imbalances. A 40-60 imbalance probably isn't a big deal, but once you get to like, 90-10 or worse, as is the case with early education, you start to get a bunch of secondary social problems. Kids who associate learning as a woman only thing, or the culture around engineering or software becoming "boys clubs" that become uncomfortable for the women who do want to work in those fields https://www.cuny.edu/academics/academic-programs/teacher-education-programs/nyc-men-teach/ https://www.cuny.edu/academics/academic-programs/teacher-edu...

jimbokun 2y ago
> There's a lot of Men-in-Teaching advocacy There are pundits saying this should be supported. Are there programs with real dollars behind them making actual changes?
- simplicio 2y ago
  The one I linked to? But that was just the first one that came up on google, seems to be a fair number of similar programs in other states.
  - jimbokun 2y ago
    Sorry, missed the link. I hope those programs make a difference.
mike_hearn 2y ago
Your link isn't men-in-teaching advocacy, it's specifically about: > adding 1,000 male teachers of color into the teacher pipeline White men need not apply. If they were actually trying to solve a gender imbalance they wouldn't impose that criteria.