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Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women
- dotcoma 2y agoWhat happens if no women were ok with sitting next to a man?
- defrost 2y agoThat depends entirely on seating capicity and layout and specific numbers. Also whether male across aisle, male in seat ahead or behind is considered an issue. It's a constraint problem similar to paying extra to not be near children.
- dotcoma 2y agoWhat is more expensive? Not having to sit next to a child or not having to sit next to a man? Also: will IndiGo Airlines share with me, a guy, part of the extra money I help them make? ;)
- defrost 2y agoJust ask them: https://www.goindigo.in/flight-booking.html https://www.goindigo.in/flight-booking.html Block seating isn't hard to work out.
- freilanzer 2y ago> Also whether male across aisle, male in seat ahead or behind is considered an issue At this point, just don't fly.
- defrost 2y agoWhy? Seating is already segregated by quality of service, if the demand is there it's no more difficult to block seat by other criteria. Is logistics and constraint programming too hard for some? Perhaps avoid container routing and ship stacking problems.
- kryptiskt 2y agoThen you may end up with the last seat only being available for people willing to sit next to a man. The odd man out can still share a three seat row with a woman if they sit in the window and aisle seats. But otherwise, apart from that last middle seat (or one of the seats in a two seat row) there shouldn't be any complications if all women spurned sitting next to men.
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- laurentlb 2y agoWhen I booked a long distance bus in Turkiye and in Azerbaijan, the interface showed me the gender of other people, and prevented me to sit next to someone of the opposite gender. There was also a special case for children. As far as I understand, this is required by law, so Flixbus and other companies had to implement this feature.
- urbandw311er 2y agoI wonder how this will/would work with trans people. I hope it is done with suitable sensitivity and sensibility.
- d1sxeyes 2y agoI'm not sure that society has reached a point where sensitivity and sensibility meet on trans rights topics. I think it's unlikely that an Indian airline will be the first to solve this problem.
- viciousvoxel 2y agoReally? I'm guessing very much not, given the track record of Islamic countries on LGBTQ+ issues
- rand846633 2y agoIt’s more complicated than that, for exactly Pakistan recognizes a third sex since years. It’s just rather shitty how they do it…
- andsoitis 2y ago> It’s more complicated than that, for exactly Pakistan recognizes a third sex since years. It’s just rather shitty how they do it… Hijra (transgender, intersex, or eunuch) are recognized, but live at the margins of society on the Indian subcontinent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)#Social_status_and_economic_circumstances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)#Social_stat...
- newshackr 2y agoGiven the tightness of airline seating and typical shoulder width for each gender, alternating male / female seating seems ideal space-wise.
- grantsh 2y agoThis is what happens when you leave decisions with social consequences to engineers... they end up optimizing to strange anti-social characteristics at the cost of any sort of social reality.
- solardev 2y agoWe could save even more space if we hooked up seating arrangements to TSA body scanners. Using body outlines, seating could be dynamically adjusted before boarding to ensure each passenger can optimally interlock legs with their neighbors. Lap sizes can determine the ideal vertical stacking, with overhead bins removed to save space now that the top passenger can hold all the carryon. This approach might take a bit of getting used to, but just imagine the carbon savings.
- anticensor 2y agoOh, that's just standing passengers except they sit. May be acceptable in an intra-urban plane, but not on the long distance.
- arp242 2y ago> it said it opened 96 in-flight sexual assault cases in 2023. This seems a very low number; roughly on the same order as number of people who die in an air craft accident (that is: dozens or hundreds/year, rather than thousands or more). Total cases opened was 512 by the way: https://www.faa.gov/unruly https://www.faa.gov/unruly
- urbandw311er 2y agoAre you saying they are underestimating the number? Or are you saying that the number isn’t high enough to warrant action? Your comment isn’t clear.
- d1sxeyes 2y agoI believe the first, they're saying that it's about as likely to report being sexually assaulted on a plane as to die in a plane crash, which seems extraordinarily unlikely to be true, and if it IS true, it implies that planes are already safe places, safer than most other environments you'll be in.
- arp242 2y agoNo, I just looked up how this number relates. Nothing more, nothing less. No assumptions or points to be made about anything. To what degree these numbers are reliably is not something I can reasonably judge.
- Someone 2y agoOr they’re so unsafe that people do not dare report issues. Or people being harassed don’t think it will help to report issues. Or people being harassed think it might help, but statistically not so much that it makes reporting issues worth the added travel delay. (This list likely isn’t complete)
- d1sxeyes 2y agoSorry, yes, my meaning was that it seems as though the number OP used to arrive at the conclusion is incorrect, either because OP made an error, or because of some reason that leads folks to under-report (as you suggest above), or because the data is wrong for some other reason.
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- HJain13 2y agoTell me you are a bigot without telling me you're a bigot.
- Giorgi 2y agoCope.
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- ToxicMegacolon 2y agoAt least they are doing something about it. Unlike the US where school kids get shot on a regular basis and they are all completely in denial of it. Not even Taliban does that.
- Giorgi 2y ago"WHAT ABOUT US"
- foobarkey 2y agoShowed this to my gf, she said Indian/Pakistani guys are the worst on Messenger/Whatsapp, like to always start the conversation with dick pics. So I guess this makes some sense but I do feel bit discriminated :D
- viking123 2y agoI really don't understand these men who send the dick picks. Like does it actually work with some women? In my experience women tend to be very different to men in that regard, but I guess it has work some time because so many keep always doing it. I just find it really repulsive.
- foobarkey 2y agoI tried it once 10 years ago, 0/1 success rate according to my datas
- GOD_Over_Djinn 2y agoThe purpose is not for it to “work”. The men who do this have not had success with women, and have grown frustrated and resentful. They feel powerless in this area. The only way they can reclaim power and feel better about themselves is to harass, intimidate, or harm women.
- baobabKoodaa 2y agoThis hypothesis does not sound plausible and tells more about your own world view than anything else.
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- dartharva 2y agoBuses throughout India have segregated seating for male (at the back) and female (in the front) passengers. Subway trains in most metro-cities often literally have seperate carriages reserved only for women. Most co-ed schools in India also segregate their classrooms by having girls and boys sit in distinct clusters of seats, perhaps a legacy practice inherited from missionary convent schools of the Raj. Co-ed hostels are literally unheard of; and no landlord ever accepts explicitly leasing a flat/house to men and women together unless they are related or married. Such physical separation between the sexes has been a long-practiced convention across a lot of domains in India. So when Indigo says this policy change is "to make the travel experience more comfortable for our female passengers", what this means is that they are trying to make air travel conform to the practices the female passengers have grown up experiencing in other modes of public transport and everywhere else, to reduce friction and needless culture shock for new flyers.
- wkat4242 2y agoWow some of these practices were in place in the Netherlands in the 50s when the country was still very traditional (also, women in a government job were forced to resign when they married) but I'm so glad they are no longer the case. Like not being allowed to live together without being married. And of course now the whole gender thing is not as black and white anymore anyway. E.g. gender neutral toilets, there's no longer just 2 categories. So this kind of thing wouldn't make sense anymore. I have many colleagues in India and especially the ones from rural areas are experiencing extreme pressure from their families to get married in their early 20s. If they don't hurry up finding a partner their families find one for them, and if they refuse they get discommunicated completely. I find it really sad because most of them are living modern lives in Bangalore. They seem a bit torn between two worlds, one really modern like ours (Bangalore) and one very traditional where they come from. I know several of them have partners without their families knowing, and they drink and party also without them knowing etc. One of them did tell her parents about her partner and wanted to marry him but her parents objected because he was not from the 'correct' caste (they didn't even meet him). It seems to be a country deeply struggling with this transition and forcing young people into a way of life they don't want. I'm really happy I didn't have to deal with that when I was young and I could explore the world as I pleased. I'm in my late 40s now and never got married (though I did have one very long-term relationship). Personally I strongly believe in the right of the individual to live their life as they choose free from social pressures.