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The part about not eating too much fibre because it irritates the gut reminded me of an amusing anecdote in Dan Martin's autobiography, where he talked about co

The part about not eating too much fibre because it irritates the gut reminded me of an amusing anecdote in Dan Martin's autobiography, where he talked about coming (I think) third in The Tour and was sitting with Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas from Team Sky (now Ineos Grenadiers) after the finish in Paris. He was looking forward to a big burger and chips, and Froome and Thomas were discussing how they were really looking forward to a nice salad (i.e. lots of fibre). He partly admired the dedication, but at the same time wondered how on earth they could live like that.

AndrewOMartin 2y ago
Salads can be really good in Paris! :D Martin might just be imagining a slice of tomato on a leaf of lettuce, Froome and Thomas might have been imagining a range of herbs and roasted nuts with a delicious oil or vinaigrette, chunks of an interesting cheese or two and some powerful olives and garlic. Or thereabouts.
- frereubu 2y ago
  Yeah, I'm sure he knows that - he lives in Andorra - but I read it as him being surprised that of all the tasty things they weren't allowed to eat (as the article makes clear the food during the Tour tends to be pretty bland) the first thing they'd crave is a salad.
  - lormayna 2y ago
    I remember Fabio Aru saying that he was allowed to eat a pizza once in an year, at the end of the season. This is one of the reason why several modern cyclist had a mental breakdown like Tom Dumolin
Optimal_Persona 2y ago
Tomorrow's headline: Turd de France - How professional cyclists poop (or don't) on the road...
- hinkley 2y ago
  Don't poop on the road, poop in the bushes.
- LinkinNg 2y ago
  Cavendish breaks Tour de France stage record
hinkley 2y ago
Runners also warn about high fiber being bad. I keep being drawn back to our friend the Banana. I think pectin is easier on the stomach than insoluble fiber, but I have a lot of gaps in this part of my knowledge. The cheeseburger calls to us all. Some of us are just "better" at resisting the call.
- burningChrome 2y ago
  >> The cheeseburger calls to us all. One my trainers when I was in college told me that when you crave foods, its not your lack of willpower, its actually your body telling you it needs certain nutrients. He told me when you crave chocolate its because your body needs carbs, so if you get some carbs, your chocolate cravings will go away. I'm guessing the idea you crave a cheeseburger is the same thing, his body was in need of complex carbs and protein? This is purely anecdotal evidence of this, but in my experience as an endurance athlete (soccer, cycling, adventure racing) its seems to work. When I've craved chocolate, I just eat some toast or chips or drink some Mt. Dew (a lot of people have no idea how many carbs are in soda) and the desire for something chocolatey goes away. As others have pointed out in the thread, everybody is different, but in my case, this idea seems to be accurate.
  - hinkley 2y ago
    Protein and fat, but probably mostly salt. One year I bumped into a friend of a friend at the checkin for a 3 day bike tour and we decided to 1) ride together and 2) see how fast we could do it. Short rests, riding hard, drafting the entire way. All day, in the Labor Day sun. On day two after we pulled up to the stopping point, we got set up and then crawled back on our bikes to ride to the other side of this small college town to find the Dairy Queen for a bacon cheeseburger. It's not the best tasting beef I've ever had (that was in New Orleans), but it was the best tasting burger.
  - hinkley 2y ago
    In a completely unrelated anecdote, one day on a club ride we were almost to the turnaround point for the day. The town was on a hill on the far side of a river valley and it was a relatively nasty hill. One of the older guys was falling off the back and I and a few other people heard him yell something but we couldn't make out what it was, so we dropped back to see if he was okay. He had yelled "CHEESEBURGER!" as a rally cry.
bleakenthusiasm 2y ago
I get it, though. I often crave salad when I have eaten too much fat for a day or two. Sometimes the body really just tells you what it needs.

AndrewOMartin 2y ago

Salads can be really good in Paris! :D Martin might just be imagining a slice of tomato on a leaf of lettuce, Froome and Thomas might have been imagining a range of herbs and roasted nuts with a delicious oil or vinaigrette, chunks of an interesting cheese or two and some powerful olives and garlic. Or thereabouts.

frereubu 2y ago
Yeah, I'm sure he knows that - he lives in Andorra - but I read it as him being surprised that of all the tasty things they weren't allowed to eat (as the article makes clear the food during the Tour tends to be pretty bland) the first thing they'd crave is a salad.
- lormayna 2y ago
  I remember Fabio Aru saying that he was allowed to eat a pizza once in an year, at the end of the season. This is one of the reason why several modern cyclist had a mental breakdown like Tom Dumolin

Optimal_Persona 2y ago

Tomorrow's headline: Turd de France - How professional cyclists poop (or don't) on the road...

hinkley 2y ago
Don't poop on the road, poop in the bushes.
LinkinNg 2y ago
Cavendish breaks Tour de France stage record

hinkley 2y ago

Runners also warn about high fiber being bad. I keep being drawn back to our friend the Banana. I think pectin is easier on the stomach than insoluble fiber, but I have a lot of gaps in this part of my knowledge. The cheeseburger calls to us all. Some of us are just "better" at resisting the call.

burningChrome 2y ago
>> The cheeseburger calls to us all. One my trainers when I was in college told me that when you crave foods, its not your lack of willpower, its actually your body telling you it needs certain nutrients. He told me when you crave chocolate its because your body needs carbs, so if you get some carbs, your chocolate cravings will go away. I'm guessing the idea you crave a cheeseburger is the same thing, his body was in need of complex carbs and protein? This is purely anecdotal evidence of this, but in my experience as an endurance athlete (soccer, cycling, adventure racing) its seems to work. When I've craved chocolate, I just eat some toast or chips or drink some Mt. Dew (a lot of people have no idea how many carbs are in soda) and the desire for something chocolatey goes away. As others have pointed out in the thread, everybody is different, but in my case, this idea seems to be accurate.
- hinkley 2y ago
  Protein and fat, but probably mostly salt. One year I bumped into a friend of a friend at the checkin for a 3 day bike tour and we decided to 1) ride together and 2) see how fast we could do it. Short rests, riding hard, drafting the entire way. All day, in the Labor Day sun. On day two after we pulled up to the stopping point, we got set up and then crawled back on our bikes to ride to the other side of this small college town to find the Dairy Queen for a bacon cheeseburger. It's not the best tasting beef I've ever had (that was in New Orleans), but it was the best tasting burger.
- hinkley 2y ago
  In a completely unrelated anecdote, one day on a club ride we were almost to the turnaround point for the day. The town was on a hill on the far side of a river valley and it was a relatively nasty hill. One of the older guys was falling off the back and I and a few other people heard him yell something but we couldn't make out what it was, so we dropped back to see if he was okay. He had yelled "CHEESEBURGER!" as a rally cry.

bleakenthusiasm 2y ago

I get it, though. I often crave salad when I have eaten too much fat for a day or two. Sometimes the body really just tells you what it needs.