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I have found EMO (not open though) [1] to be the best yet. Look at the rapping example near the end. The lip sync is nearly flawless. The first black and white

I have found EMO (not open though) [1] to be the best yet. Look at the rapping example near the end. The lip sync is nearly flawless. The first black and white lady singing is also almost perfect. It even gives them the subtle jerk to pause for breathing. Unless you know and really are looking for flaws, you won't find anything that stands out making them look real. [1] https://humanaigc.github.io/emote-portrait-alive/ https://humanaigc.github.io/emote-portrait-alive/

bamboozled 2y ago
The black and white lady is nightmare fuel for me personally.
- daveguy 2y ago
  Audrey Hepburn? Was she in a scary movie or play someone scary?
  - ziggy_star 2y ago
    She was a very graceful lady in wholesome movies. The juxtaposition of modern facial expressions of an influencer type singer covering Ed Sheeran at some X factor type television show are what makes it creepy. It is somehow doubly fake and extremely out of character if you are familiar with her.
  - cess11 2y ago
    In the synthetic video she looks like some kind of Frankenstein's monster, brought to life with electrodes or hidden motors, similar to the other video. Both 'move' in ways that are very unnatural.
    - hammyhavoc 2y ago
      Glad it isn't just me.
- smusamashah 2y ago
  What irks you in her? I haven't seen her before at all may be that's the reason I am not seeing anything too strange.
  - bamboozled 2y ago
    What Ces11 said.
ziggy_star 2y ago
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- smusamashah 2y ago
  Ok. So I showed the first 2 videos to my wife. She noticed the teeth merging looking different each time and then ear. But that was all. For me, lip sync and body movement is what excited me most. They are closest to real when compared with any similar tech.
  - ziggy_star 2y ago
    Crickey. Well I don't know what to think anymore. I guess it got "good enough" for some things. I can still tell. This is going to suck for some people (it feels uncomfortable).
    - hammyhavoc 2y ago
      IMO, it sucks for me beyond the level of quality. For starters, consent is the first problem I have. Yes, lots of examples, but none of the individuals consented to having their likeness used to say things they didn't. Now, abstract this problem of a lack of consent beyond "examples"—the creators of this have no problem with the ethics of not asking for consent, thus the world at large will not either. Then we have the problem of how it is going to be abused and what problems will exist because of it.
The_Colonel 2y ago
It's awesome and I hate it. This singular peace of technology makes me pessimistic towards the future. Until now, video record was considered to be a very good evidence. Let's say you argue with a person about what X person said. You show them a video and they will be like "ok, he did say that, but...". You could at least set some facts straight, and then discuss the interpretations. But that will be now gone. You can now generate mass amount of real looking fakes and at the same time label anything you don't like as fake. There's really no independent evidence now, you can only put trust into the medium of your choosing (youtube channel, newspapers, tv station) that they report honestly. This seems to have only minimal benefits for the society, but huge negatives. But there's no stopping here...
- grepfru_it 2y ago
  This was an inevitable outcome of the advancement of technology. I would argue that we lost trust in all mediums a long time ago it is just now being realized by the masses. But as usual, we shall adapt and overcome.
  - The_Colonel 2y ago
    > But as usual, we shall adapt and overcome. I don't believe this is a problem we can "overcome". We will need to learn to live with the "alternative facts" being more prominent than now, but I'm not looking forward to it.
    - czl 2y ago
      > I don't believe this is a problem we can "overcome". Digital signatures can not remedy this problem? When you login to your bank how do you know you are logging into your bank? In the future a recording without signatures will be like a bank login without https is today.
      - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
        I know I’m logging into my bank because I initiated the connection, and refuse to believe anyone in any other context who claims to be my bank. People are routinely defrauded by scammers who claim to be their bank, and banks are routinely scammed by people who claim to be an account holder.
simple10 2y ago
Wow! EMO is impressive. Do they plan on open sourcing it? The page has a link to github[1] right at the top but the repo is basically empty. https://github.com/HumanAIGC/EMO https://github.com/HumanAIGC/EMO
- simple10 2y ago
  Issues comments in EMO repo point to V-Express repo [1] which was released 2 weeks ago and appears to be a fully functioning open source? [1] https://github.com/tencent-ailab/V-Express https://github.com/tencent-ailab/V-Express

bamboozled 2y ago

The black and white lady is nightmare fuel for me personally.

daveguy 2y ago
Audrey Hepburn? Was she in a scary movie or play someone scary?
- ziggy_star 2y ago
  She was a very graceful lady in wholesome movies. The juxtaposition of modern facial expressions of an influencer type singer covering Ed Sheeran at some X factor type television show are what makes it creepy. It is somehow doubly fake and extremely out of character if you are familiar with her.
- cess11 2y ago
  In the synthetic video she looks like some kind of Frankenstein's monster, brought to life with electrodes or hidden motors, similar to the other video. Both 'move' in ways that are very unnatural.
  - hammyhavoc 2y ago
    Glad it isn't just me.
smusamashah 2y ago
What irks you in her? I haven't seen her before at all may be that's the reason I am not seeing anything too strange.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  What Ces11 said.

ziggy_star 2y ago

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smusamashah 2y ago
Ok. So I showed the first 2 videos to my wife. She noticed the teeth merging looking different each time and then ear. But that was all. For me, lip sync and body movement is what excited me most. They are closest to real when compared with any similar tech.
- ziggy_star 2y ago
  Crickey. Well I don't know what to think anymore. I guess it got "good enough" for some things. I can still tell. This is going to suck for some people (it feels uncomfortable).
  - hammyhavoc 2y ago
    IMO, it sucks for me beyond the level of quality. For starters, consent is the first problem I have. Yes, lots of examples, but none of the individuals consented to having their likeness used to say things they didn't. Now, abstract this problem of a lack of consent beyond "examples"—the creators of this have no problem with the ethics of not asking for consent, thus the world at large will not either. Then we have the problem of how it is going to be abused and what problems will exist because of it.

The_Colonel 2y ago

It's awesome and I hate it. This singular peace of technology makes me pessimistic towards the future. Until now, video record was considered to be a very good evidence. Let's say you argue with a person about what X person said. You show them a video and they will be like "ok, he did say that, but...". You could at least set some facts straight, and then discuss the interpretations. But that will be now gone. You can now generate mass amount of real looking fakes and at the same time label anything you don't like as fake. There's really no independent evidence now, you can only put trust into the medium of your choosing (youtube channel, newspapers, tv station) that they report honestly. This seems to have only minimal benefits for the society, but huge negatives. But there's no stopping here...

grepfru_it 2y ago
This was an inevitable outcome of the advancement of technology. I would argue that we lost trust in all mediums a long time ago it is just now being realized by the masses. But as usual, we shall adapt and overcome.
- The_Colonel 2y ago
  > But as usual, we shall adapt and overcome. I don't believe this is a problem we can "overcome". We will need to learn to live with the "alternative facts" being more prominent than now, but I'm not looking forward to it.
  - czl 2y ago
    > I don't believe this is a problem we can "overcome". Digital signatures can not remedy this problem? When you login to your bank how do you know you are logging into your bank? In the future a recording without signatures will be like a bank login without https is today.
    - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
      I know I’m logging into my bank because I initiated the connection, and refuse to believe anyone in any other context who claims to be my bank. People are routinely defrauded by scammers who claim to be their bank, and banks are routinely scammed by people who claim to be an account holder.

simple10 2y ago

Wow! EMO is impressive. Do they plan on open sourcing it? The page has a link to github[1] right at the top but the repo is basically empty. https://github.com/HumanAIGC/EMO https://github.com/HumanAIGC/EMO

simple10 2y ago
Issues comments in EMO repo point to V-Express repo [1] which was released 2 weeks ago and appears to be a fully functioning open source? [1] https://github.com/tencent-ailab/V-Express https://github.com/tencent-ailab/V-Express