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I love Noam Chomsky so much. To me he is epitome of what a rational caring intellectual should be. Number one, he strives for the truth and while can have intel

I love Noam Chomsky so much. To me he is epitome of what a rational caring intellectual should be. Number one, he strives for the truth and while can have intellectual blind spots, isn't afraid of calling them out. We had him has a guest speaker for an internal presentation at Google and of course we had some hyper-rational libertarian eastern block swe kid who was going to take him down and Noam was super respectful, spared with the kid for awhile and then changed the subject slightly while destroying the libertarian kid's entire argument. You don't just debate Noam Chomsky. https://nerocam.com/DrFun/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200304/df20030409.jpg https://nerocam.com/DrFun/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200304/df20030409.jp... Noam Chomsky vs. Michel Foucault - Dictatorship of the Proletariat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpoLLAJ1t74 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpoLLAJ1t74

pcthrowaway 2y ago
> We had him has a guest speaker for an internal presentation at Google Would have loved to be a fly on the wall had he been able to do a guest spot at Google recently. I'm willing to bet he would've gone off-script and given Google hell for their engagements with Israel and treatment of their own employees who protested.
- sitkack 2y ago
  Noam wouldn't be allowed to speak at NeuGoogle.
TiredOfLife 2y ago
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credit_guy 2y ago
> I love Noam Chomsky so much. I don't. There are some things out there that are up for debate. But not Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Chomsky, for some weird reason, chose to take Russia's side. Edit: To be sure, I wish him full recovery and many more happy years. https://www.e-flux.com/notes/470005/open-letter-to-noam-chomsky-and-other-like-minded-intellectuals-on-the-russia-ukraine-war https://www.e-flux.com/notes/470005/open-letter-to-noam-chom...
- alecco 2y ago
  Just Russia? Noam Chomsky had some financial money transfers and a series of meetings arranged by Jeffrey Epstein. At least one meeting with Ehud Barak (former PM of Israel). And he refused to explain himself. This got quickly swept under the rug. But it's there even on mainstream media if you bother to search for it.
  - addicted 2y ago
    Considering he’s significantly anti-Israel I’m curious even if there were nefarious purposes behind his meeting with Barak what direction do you think it swayed him in? In addition a LOT of academics met with Epstein. The whole point of Epstein was that he clawed himself up the social ladder by schmoozing with money people and raising funds for academic work. It would be entirely shocking if Epstein raised all this money for academia and didn’t even try and meet probably the only famous academic in the world.
  - hdbenne 2y ago
    If I recall, he did explain himself… it boiled down to it being none of your or my business. I despise Epstein, but as he was heavily involved in finance, I am sure many people had dealings with him that were not sexual in nature. You can find many things that Noam missed the mark on. To err is human. But this is conspiratorial and not fair. If you were judged by all the people you had financial or social dealings with I’d imagine you would share a similar sentiment.
    - jasonvorhe 2y ago
      Jeffrey Epstein was sus ever since he appeared because of the way he suddenly rose up in ranks, got handed billions of dollars without having done any significant deals himself. His connections to Mossad and US elites should've raised red flags for someone like Chomsky. I see no reason to give anyone dealing with Epstein the benefit of the doubt.
      - Jerrrrry 2y ago
collyw 2y ago
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- lawlessone 2y ago
  The unvaccinated exclude themselves from society.
  - hypertele-Xii 2y ago
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    - throwitaway222 2y ago
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      - paulmd 2y ago
        Columbo: “Say, you aren’t posting on a throwaway because your main got flagged for disinformation, are ya?” https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3501247.3531573 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3501247.3531573
sickofparadox 2y ago
He is such a terrible person he has his own section on the Wikipedia page for "Cambodian Genocide Denial"[1] and is heavily featured in the page for "Bosnian Genocide Denial"[2]. Chomsky is a disgusting hack who runs cover for any genocidal freak that pays lip service to the hammer and sickle. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Chomsky_and_Herman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Chom... [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide_denial#Revisionism_and_denialism_abroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide_denial#Revisi...
- me_me_me 2y ago
  oh wow, its the same dead horse being beaten again and again and again. The whole thing is more semantical argument than ideological. Chomsky is not 100% right on everything and his world views are more black and white than the world they describe. But he is an excellent linchpin to validate your own views against. People who hate him always attack him based on few things from the past, while following/praising people who are spineless.
  - panick21_ 2y ago
    Its like people always go after Nazi and right wingers about the same kind of stuff. Like let it go people.
    - me_me_me 2y ago
      equivalent example?
      - panick21_ 2y ago
        Genocide denial or downplaying? Yeah no idea why you would compare those.
        me_me_me 2y ago
        Ok go ahead, show me where Chomsky directly denies a genocide.
shrimp_emoji 2y ago
>To me he is epitome of what a rational caring intellectual should be. >America bad, everything bad = America What a frighteningly distorted view of "rational" and "intellectual".
- tacocataco 2y ago
  America is perfect? No bad to be found here? I find this hard to believe.
ChumpGPT 2y ago
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- nemothekid 2y ago
  1. An immensely powerful career politician who had engineered several coups across Asia that led to the needless destruction of untold lives 2. A libleft college professor who was not taken seriously by anyone with any modicum of power. Who's number 3? A coughing baby?
  - CuriousCosmic 2y ago
    "That dude greg 2 blocks down who doesn't bring his trash bins in until THE DAY AFTER trash day"
- objektif 2y ago
  What an absurd comment. How do you even hold a war criminal and talking head equal?
- me_me_me 2y ago
  wow dude, Chomsky worse than Kim, Putin, Xi... I mean the list goes on. just wow.
- dang 2y ago
  You can't post like this to HN, regardless of how you feel about someone. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
bobvanluijt 2y ago
> I love Noam Chomsky so much +1
- isntbilly 2y ago
  > I love Noam Chomsky so much ±1
lokar 2y ago
ISTR he was there on a book tour? Ready to talk politics. Got a bunch of linguistics questions.
throwaway8877 2y ago
He is a genocide supporting cancer. The only thing that he cares is to be against US, so he supports Serbia and Putin. He has no problem to lie and deceive.

pcthrowaway 2y ago

> We had him has a guest speaker for an internal presentation at Google Would have loved to be a fly on the wall had he been able to do a guest spot at Google recently. I'm willing to bet he would've gone off-script and given Google hell for their engagements with Israel and treatment of their own employees who protested.

sitkack 2y ago
Noam wouldn't be allowed to speak at NeuGoogle.

TiredOfLife 2y ago

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credit_guy 2y ago

> I love Noam Chomsky so much. I don't. There are some things out there that are up for debate. But not Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Chomsky, for some weird reason, chose to take Russia's side. Edit: To be sure, I wish him full recovery and many more happy years. https://www.e-flux.com/notes/470005/open-letter-to-noam-chomsky-and-other-like-minded-intellectuals-on-the-russia-ukraine-war https://www.e-flux.com/notes/470005/open-letter-to-noam-chom...

alecco 2y ago
Just Russia? Noam Chomsky had some financial money transfers and a series of meetings arranged by Jeffrey Epstein. At least one meeting with Ehud Barak (former PM of Israel). And he refused to explain himself. This got quickly swept under the rug. But it's there even on mainstream media if you bother to search for it.
- addicted 2y ago
  Considering he’s significantly anti-Israel I’m curious even if there were nefarious purposes behind his meeting with Barak what direction do you think it swayed him in? In addition a LOT of academics met with Epstein. The whole point of Epstein was that he clawed himself up the social ladder by schmoozing with money people and raising funds for academic work. It would be entirely shocking if Epstein raised all this money for academia and didn’t even try and meet probably the only famous academic in the world.
- hdbenne 2y ago
  If I recall, he did explain himself… it boiled down to it being none of your or my business. I despise Epstein, but as he was heavily involved in finance, I am sure many people had dealings with him that were not sexual in nature. You can find many things that Noam missed the mark on. To err is human. But this is conspiratorial and not fair. If you were judged by all the people you had financial or social dealings with I’d imagine you would share a similar sentiment.
  - jasonvorhe 2y ago
    Jeffrey Epstein was sus ever since he appeared because of the way he suddenly rose up in ranks, got handed billions of dollars without having done any significant deals himself. His connections to Mossad and US elites should've raised red flags for someone like Chomsky. I see no reason to give anyone dealing with Epstein the benefit of the doubt.
    - Jerrrrry 2y ago

collyw 2y ago

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lawlessone 2y ago
The unvaccinated exclude themselves from society.
- hypertele-Xii 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - throwitaway222 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - paulmd 2y ago
      Columbo: “Say, you aren’t posting on a throwaway because your main got flagged for disinformation, are ya?” https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3501247.3531573 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3501247.3531573

sickofparadox 2y ago

He is such a terrible person he has his own section on the Wikipedia page for "Cambodian Genocide Denial"[1] and is heavily featured in the page for "Bosnian Genocide Denial"[2]. Chomsky is a disgusting hack who runs cover for any genocidal freak that pays lip service to the hammer and sickle. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Chomsky_and_Herman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Chom... [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide_denial#Revisionism_and_denialism_abroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide_denial#Revisi...

me_me_me 2y ago
oh wow, its the same dead horse being beaten again and again and again. The whole thing is more semantical argument than ideological. Chomsky is not 100% right on everything and his world views are more black and white than the world they describe. But he is an excellent linchpin to validate your own views against. People who hate him always attack him based on few things from the past, while following/praising people who are spineless.
- panick21_ 2y ago
  Its like people always go after Nazi and right wingers about the same kind of stuff. Like let it go people.
  - me_me_me 2y ago
    equivalent example?
    - panick21_ 2y ago
      Genocide denial or downplaying? Yeah no idea why you would compare those.
      - me_me_me 2y ago
        Ok go ahead, show me where Chomsky directly denies a genocide.

shrimp_emoji 2y ago

>To me he is epitome of what a rational caring intellectual should be. >America bad, everything bad = America What a frighteningly distorted view of "rational" and "intellectual".

tacocataco 2y ago
America is perfect? No bad to be found here? I find this hard to believe.

ChumpGPT 2y ago

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nemothekid 2y ago
1. An immensely powerful career politician who had engineered several coups across Asia that led to the needless destruction of untold lives 2. A libleft college professor who was not taken seriously by anyone with any modicum of power. Who's number 3? A coughing baby?
- CuriousCosmic 2y ago
  "That dude greg 2 blocks down who doesn't bring his trash bins in until THE DAY AFTER trash day"
objektif 2y ago
What an absurd comment. How do you even hold a war criminal and talking head equal?
me_me_me 2y ago
wow dude, Chomsky worse than Kim, Putin, Xi... I mean the list goes on. just wow.
dang 2y ago
You can't post like this to HN, regardless of how you feel about someone. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

bobvanluijt 2y ago

> I love Noam Chomsky so much +1

isntbilly 2y ago
> I love Noam Chomsky so much ±1

lokar 2y ago

ISTR he was there on a book tour? Ready to talk politics. Got a bunch of linguistics questions.

throwaway8877 2y ago

He is a genocide supporting cancer. The only thing that he cares is to be against US, so he supports Serbia and Putin. He has no problem to lie and deceive.