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What's new in Xcode 16 [video]

23 points by ksec 2y ago

gondo 2y ago
There are also release notes: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes/xcode-16-release-notes https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-note...
- andrekandre 2y ago
  > Predictive code completion requires a Mac with Apple silicon and 16GB of unified memory, running macOS 15. nice, its running locally and must be a pretty optimized/trimmed model to fit there and run quickly enough
mrichman 2y ago
Does anyone actually use Xcode as their daily driver if their full time job is not macOS, iOS, etc developer?
- Waterluvian 2y ago
  Is that even a thing? I thought that’s literally all it was designed for.
  - lordnacho 2y ago
    When you write c++ on a mac you end up having to install some XCode related compiler stuff, something like that? Maybe you can use it for c++ if you want to?
- TheTon 2y ago
  Sure, I use Xcode to work on cross platform C and C++ projects. Meta build systems like cmake can generate projects or build files for various IDEs (like Xcode) or build systems (like ninja) from a single project definition. IMO, Xcode is a great IDE and I feel like it gives me productivity benefits compared to other editors or IDEs I might use. I think people who don’t like it either haven’t put in the time to master it or else they already have a preconceived notion of how their IDE ought to work based on their experience from other tools. And I think that goes for a lot of IDEs. I don’t love Visual Studio, but I also have only put in to it a fraction of the time I’ve put into Xcode, so I’m not gonna say the problem is VS. Anyway, I’m looking forward to the new Xcode updates.
  - addicted 2y ago
    Even people who use Visual Studio don’t love Visual Studio. You use Visual Studio because it does have some powerful tools and some great extensions and finally because certain MS technologies require it. Most VS license holders I know largely use VS Code dropping into Visual Studio for very specific needs. XCode is the same minus the powerful tools and extensions.
- ncr100 2y ago
  I'd be interested to know what is your thoughts about using xcode only for Mac dev? Is are you ideating a plugin instead of the Xcode app? Or perhaps do you want to eliminate all Apple apis, so there is no need for Xcode? It's a puzzling topic, and I'm suspicious it is a red herring.. am I wrong?
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georgel 2y ago
The code completion looked nice, but having used Xcode since v4 I would be happier if Xcode wasn't so buggy. I think they mentioned SwiftUI previews got some issues solved.
ssahoo 2y ago
I just wish they fix the backward compatibility issue. Every upgrade they break perfectly working build.

23 points by ksec 2y ago

There are also release notes: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes/xcode-16-release-notes https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-note...

andrekandre 2y ago
> Predictive code completion requires a Mac with Apple silicon and 16GB of unified memory, running macOS 15. nice, its running locally and must be a pretty optimized/trimmed model to fit there and run quickly enough

mrichman 2y ago

Does anyone actually use Xcode as their daily driver if their full time job is not macOS, iOS, etc developer?

Waterluvian 2y ago
Is that even a thing? I thought that’s literally all it was designed for.
- lordnacho 2y ago
  When you write c++ on a mac you end up having to install some XCode related compiler stuff, something like that? Maybe you can use it for c++ if you want to?
TheTon 2y ago
Sure, I use Xcode to work on cross platform C and C++ projects. Meta build systems like cmake can generate projects or build files for various IDEs (like Xcode) or build systems (like ninja) from a single project definition. IMO, Xcode is a great IDE and I feel like it gives me productivity benefits compared to other editors or IDEs I might use. I think people who don’t like it either haven’t put in the time to master it or else they already have a preconceived notion of how their IDE ought to work based on their experience from other tools. And I think that goes for a lot of IDEs. I don’t love Visual Studio, but I also have only put in to it a fraction of the time I’ve put into Xcode, so I’m not gonna say the problem is VS. Anyway, I’m looking forward to the new Xcode updates.
- addicted 2y ago
  Even people who use Visual Studio don’t love Visual Studio. You use Visual Studio because it does have some powerful tools and some great extensions and finally because certain MS technologies require it. Most VS license holders I know largely use VS Code dropping into Visual Studio for very specific needs. XCode is the same minus the powerful tools and extensions.
ncr100 2y ago
I'd be interested to know what is your thoughts about using xcode only for Mac dev? Is are you ideating a plugin instead of the Xcode app? Or perhaps do you want to eliminate all Apple apis, so there is no need for Xcode? It's a puzzling topic, and I'm suspicious it is a red herring.. am I wrong?

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georgel 2y ago

The code completion looked nice, but having used Xcode since v4 I would be happier if Xcode wasn't so buggy. I think they mentioned SwiftUI previews got some issues solved.

ssahoo 2y ago

I just wish they fix the backward compatibility issue. Every upgrade they break perfectly working build.