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I don't get it either. Maybe they are training LLMs. We're a family of 4 and we use ~90kWh per month. No difference winter/summer because we have gas heating.

I don't get it either. Maybe they are training LLMs. We're a family of 4 and we use ~90kWh per month. No difference winter/summer because we have gas heating. Maybe that's where the difference goes.

whiplash451 2y ago
They say they convert their gas heater into the equivalent in electricity. They also say they consume 177kWh in a summer month which amounts to more than 50kWh per day.
- cuu508 2y ago
  177kWh/mo is 5.9kWh/day
  - whiplash451 2y ago
    You’re right! My bad :)
IshKebab 2y ago
That's extremely low tbf. We're the same and use around 10 kWh/day. The average use per household in the UK is 7 kWh/day. I'm really curious what people's base load is though. Mine is about 300W which seems very high and I can't figure out what would be using all that power. I guess we have 3 routers, an American style fridge and a Quooker tap, but even so... feels like it should be half that. Guess I need to go around with a power meter.
- Yoric 2y ago
  FWIW, in my house, ~50% of the electricity is used by the electric water heater. This feels like lots of waste, given that we take at most 30 minutes of shower per day.
- kalleboo 2y ago
  From the dates when we've been away from the house, ours is around 140 W. That's with a router and 4-bay NAS, a fridge, and whatever else is on standby mode (TV, microwave etc)
- forty 2y ago
  There is also usually motorized ventilation which is among the 24/24 consumption which is hard to avoid
  - IshKebab 2y ago
    Not in the UK.
    - forty 2y ago
      Sorry for the answer more than a week later, but could you please elaborate? They don't have motorized ventilation in the UK? Why?
- globular-toast 2y ago
  3 routers? Why? American style fridge-freezers are notoriously inefficient. When I worked in kitchens we'd try to put people off them most times. A side by side full-size European fridge and freezer is far better, more efficient and fits in our kitchens. The ones who got American style fridge-freezers were the ones for whom money was no concern. And bare in mind this was an upmarket kitchen place earth average overall cost between 20-30k per kitchen.
  - IshKebab 2y ago
    > 3 routers? Why? One provided by Virgin that contains the cable modem and I have to use. I put it in modem mode though because its WiFi is crap. One main WiFi router. One extra one we have in our garden room (main WiFi doesn't reach that far). > American style fridge-freezers are notoriously inefficient. Yeah, though the specs for it claim 70 W average. I guess that may be optimistic so call it 100 W. That is quite a bit tbf. I don't know why getting two separate appliances would be more efficient?
    - globular-toast 2y ago
      Ah ok.. not three routers then, but three pieces of network equipment. I have a similar set up (well, I have more like 10 things on including switches and NAS). I was speaking to a colleague the other day and he was saying how his network is annoying and it turned out he actually was using two routers. That second wireless AP should be just an access point, not a router (some have two modes). Two separate appliances really was more efficient. The European models were vastly more efficient than the American ones (European ones were like A+ rating; American were like F with not much in between). I think the American style ones are a bit better now, though (they're probably European specific models).
      - IshKebab 2y ago
        I mean... it's just American style. It's actually made by Samsung and is A rated. (I didn't buy it.)
Timshel 2y ago
~90kWh would not be enough if you were heating water with a water tank. My 100l use 1KWh a day just to maintain it's temperature.

I don't get it either. Maybe they are training LLMs. We're a family of 4 and we use ~90kWh per month. No difference winter/summer because we have gas heating. Maybe that's where the difference goes.

whiplash451 2y ago

They say they convert their gas heater into the equivalent in electricity. They also say they consume 177kWh in a summer month which amounts to more than 50kWh per day.

cuu508 2y ago
177kWh/mo is 5.9kWh/day
- whiplash451 2y ago
  You’re right! My bad :)

IshKebab 2y ago

That's extremely low tbf. We're the same and use around 10 kWh/day. The average use per household in the UK is 7 kWh/day. I'm really curious what people's base load is though. Mine is about 300W which seems very high and I can't figure out what would be using all that power. I guess we have 3 routers, an American style fridge and a Quooker tap, but even so... feels like it should be half that. Guess I need to go around with a power meter.

Yoric 2y ago
FWIW, in my house, ~50% of the electricity is used by the electric water heater. This feels like lots of waste, given that we take at most 30 minutes of shower per day.
kalleboo 2y ago
From the dates when we've been away from the house, ours is around 140 W. That's with a router and 4-bay NAS, a fridge, and whatever else is on standby mode (TV, microwave etc)
forty 2y ago
There is also usually motorized ventilation which is among the 24/24 consumption which is hard to avoid
- IshKebab 2y ago
  Not in the UK.
  - forty 2y ago
    Sorry for the answer more than a week later, but could you please elaborate? They don't have motorized ventilation in the UK? Why?
globular-toast 2y ago
3 routers? Why? American style fridge-freezers are notoriously inefficient. When I worked in kitchens we'd try to put people off them most times. A side by side full-size European fridge and freezer is far better, more efficient and fits in our kitchens. The ones who got American style fridge-freezers were the ones for whom money was no concern. And bare in mind this was an upmarket kitchen place earth average overall cost between 20-30k per kitchen.
- IshKebab 2y ago
  > 3 routers? Why? One provided by Virgin that contains the cable modem and I have to use. I put it in modem mode though because its WiFi is crap. One main WiFi router. One extra one we have in our garden room (main WiFi doesn't reach that far). > American style fridge-freezers are notoriously inefficient. Yeah, though the specs for it claim 70 W average. I guess that may be optimistic so call it 100 W. That is quite a bit tbf. I don't know why getting two separate appliances would be more efficient?
  - globular-toast 2y ago
    Ah ok.. not three routers then, but three pieces of network equipment. I have a similar set up (well, I have more like 10 things on including switches and NAS). I was speaking to a colleague the other day and he was saying how his network is annoying and it turned out he actually was using two routers. That second wireless AP should be just an access point, not a router (some have two modes). Two separate appliances really was more efficient. The European models were vastly more efficient than the American ones (European ones were like A+ rating; American were like F with not much in between). I think the American style ones are a bit better now, though (they're probably European specific models).
    - IshKebab 2y ago
      I mean... it's just American style. It's actually made by Samsung and is A rated. (I didn't buy it.)

Timshel 2y ago

~90kWh would not be enough if you were heating water with a water tank. My 100l use 1KWh a day just to maintain it's temperature.