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Phoenix Is Facing a Hurricane Katrina of Heat
- mitchbob 2y agohttps://archive.ph/WC95B https://archive.ph/WC95B
- 39896880 2y agoDoes Phoenix have a heat problem or a meth and fentanyl problem? > Meanwhile, drugs and alcohol were involved in 65% of Phoenix’s heat deaths, merging two public health scourges into one. Among the drugs most commonly contributing to heat deaths were methamphetamines and fentanyl.
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoWhy even build here? Seems like Hubris. ""In Arizona’s Maricopa County, home to the capital of Phoenix, nearly 2,000 people have died of heat-related deaths in the past five years. Built in a desert with limited water supplies and expanding rapidly, Phoenix, once called “the world’s least-sustainable city,”""
- dventimi 2y agoBecause there's demand for housing
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoSure. Ok. Let me rephrase. Then why is there demand? Why do humans want to live in a desolate desert without water? It isn't logical. Maybe allergies are better for a few people. That doesn't explain why companies would commit. Why would semiconductor companies build plants here.
- sparker72678 2y ago300+ days of sun, access to jobs, no snow, nice climate half the year, cheaper than California.
- dventimi 2y agoSeems pretty logical to me
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoGuess that is "logic" as in "human logic, what makes me feel good right now and discount all future problems". That might make sense, doesn't Phoenix also have a pretty high percentage of overweight unhealthy people? Just sitting inside with air conditioning. It fits that method of thinking.
- dventimi 2y ago> Guess that is "logic" as in "human logic I assume the people living in Phoenix are humans, yes. Seems likely they're using the one and only logic available to humans.
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- fullstkinventor 2y agoPhoenix native here. The people who have lived here a long time know how to adjust to the heat. You really have to live “another way”. People who come to town are completely unprepared. It feels like LA weather from October until May, and then suddenly it’s very hot. You can’t live “normally” when it’s over 115, with a low of 93 at 5 am. There’s tons of unofficial lifestyle rules to survive well. For example before you drive you “cool down your car” by turning on the air conditioning and washing the car by running the hose all over it (even though that water is also hot lol). Cooling off your car that’s been sitting in the hot sun with water allows the air to actually work. Tons of stuff like that. You need to drink cold water with electrolytes and I find everyone’s diet changes. People eat less, and eat spicier Mexican food and salt. It’s a real special environment. I personally believe the June July August and first half of Sept heat challenges are worth the desert beauty of the rest of the year.
- ImAnAmateur 2y agoI'm a native too, though I've lived more in the "greater Phoenix area" than only Phoenix. It is comically true how we tend to live in AC bubbles. On one hand, I completely understand. When the heat is so heavy that you can walk outside for 15 seconds, come back inside, and only then start sweating... I can't fault people for avoiding it as much as possible. Growing up, I'd always shivver during the summer and sweat during winter. Places like schools and stores will blast their AC constantly so the entire building is the opposite of the temperature outside. Often I'll wear layers to get around it, putting on up to three shirts when going indoors for a longer period of time. When I worked in construction for a year I learned how to safely work in 110°F heat. After that, I tried really hard to not adapt back to the colder weather, which is kind of hard when where I'm working requires me to bundle up during the summer as if it's winter because they keep it as cold as they can. I love the state too.
- oceanplexian 2y agoI live in the southwest as well and personally, I’ll take 110 and dry over 90 degrees and humid (Which covers most of the East Coast). The human body can actually cool down by evaporating sweat. The key is to get out of direct sunlight, drink lots of water, and avoid going out during the hottest part of the day.
- jeffbee 2y agoEvery one of these deaths is on the head of the government of California. The one and only reason people crowd into Phoenix is because they are fleeing the housing supply crisis of temperate coastal cities that should be 2-10x bigger than they are.
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- pengaru 2y ago> Every one of these deaths is on the head of the government of California. The one and only reason people crowd into Phoenix is because they are fleeing the housing supply crisis of temperate coastal cities that should be 2-10x bigger than they are. Imagine thinking the only reason people opt to live in Arizona over California were lack of housing supply. Not one iota to do with flag colors.
- Spooky23 2y agoPeople make decisions for dumb reasons. It’s sad to see retirees burning their retirement savings to move to Florida, only to return to civilization when their health fails, or dying early for lack of care.
- ImAnAmateur 2y agoPeople have been moving from California to AZ since before 2000. We get plenty of people from all around the US. I generally don't want to care about California's policies because focusing on Arizona's policies is more practical, but I do wish California and Nevada would waste less water. We take water security seriously because a lack of water is a meaningful threat. That stuff requires long-term planning that puts safety first instead of optimizing for profit.
- kadoban 2y agoWe (AZ) grow alfalfa. We are not taking water security seriously.
- jmclnx 2y agoBut it is a dry heat. I had a chance to move to the SW area a long time ago, I said no thank you, I do not mind the snow. If the heat there hit me, I would probably end up in the ICU. Now where I am, it does not get that cold in the winter. I think this past winter, the ave temp was about 35 -40 F (2-5C). Decades ago it was common to have a few days with a high of around -10F (-23C). I do not even remember the last time we had temps below 0 (-17C). And yet, people and companies are still moving to that area. Will be fun times in that area in say 10 years. Glad half the people in the US is doing all they can to increase C02. If you are young and live below the Mason Dixon Line, time to think about moving north.
- dventimi 2y ago> Glad half the people in the US is doing all they can to increase C02. Make that all of the people, even you.
- RestlessMind 2y agoMay I ask how you keep your house warm in winters if you live above Mason-Dixon? I bet that activity alone ("heating houses in winter in North America") puts you in the top 10%-ile people in the world by CO2 emissions.
- throw0101c 2y agoThe cartoon King of the Hill had a short, amusing scene on temperatures in Phoenix: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Hill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Hill
- tamaharbor 2y agoHow does Covid relief funding affect how the city responds to extreme heat?