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TSMC Has a Kill Switch in the event of a Chinese invasion
- user90131313 2y agoIf war happens in few years, I really wonder how markets would react to this? Algos might go crazy. It would probably create chip supply chain problems bigger than covid.
- WhereIsTheTruth 2y ago[flagged]
- nradov 2y agoBesides South Korea and Japan, do India, Vietnam, Bhutan, and Philippines have good relationships with China? They all have significant disputes over fundamental territorial issues.
- Cheeeetah 2y agoPeople who think it as merge are undoubtedly mostly Chinese. > most of them have good relationship with China I can enumerate more than half of the neighbours of China who has territorial disputes with it.
- attentive 2y agooh yeah, that's why china is doing war games around Taiwan in which it simulated attacks with bombers and boarding ships right now. Very peaceful and optimistic indeed. And somehow americans are the ones warmongering.
- WhereIsTheTruth 2y agoBrother, China only just moving ships The US literally is arming Israel to commit a genocide in Gaza If you want to play the super hero, start by not being a coward And they are doing the same with Taiwan, South Korea, Philippine and Japan Blood on your hands, you choose!
- etempleton 2y agoChina is also arming Russia.
- WhereIsTheTruth 2y agoWrong, you were not focus enough during the meeting: https://www.bbc.com/news/60571253 https://www.bbc.com/news/60571253
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoChina is not providing Russia with weapons like China is not providing the USA with illicit fentanyl. Which is to say, they definitely are, but have officially said they aren't.
- WhereIsTheTruth 2y agoMeanwhile: https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/932846/download?inline https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/932846/download?inline
- WhereIsTheTruth 2y agoas expected, people are full of shit, you give them evidence, they'll end up silencing you [flagged] "May god be with you" /s
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoI didn’t flag you. The link you posted was just to a huge document, so I didn’t bother commenting as it seemed more like noise that wasn’t worth a reply.
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- cududa 2y agoInvading countries usually refer to it as a happy merger
- quattrofan 2y ago[dead]
- Terr_ 2y ago> most of them have good relationship with China Stats or it didn't happen. In contrast, look how China's neighbors in particular view it mostly-unfavorably. [0] Then consider that since those results China's reputation has gotten worse almost everywhere [1] during the next few years of Xi Jinping authoritarianism. [0] https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/12/05/attitudes-toward-china-2019/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/12/05/attitudes-towa... [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/09/28/how-global-public-opinion-of-china-has-shifted-in-the-xi-era/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/09/28/how-global-pub...
- nradov 2y agoThis is one of the reasons why the USA is both increasing domestic chip production and boosting Taiwanese defenses.
- more_corn 2y agoWon’t be anywhere near fast enough or big enough on either count.
- Qem 2y ago> The switch applies to the latest EUV machines out of ASML. How long before China is able to make its own EUV machines?
- stn8188 2y agoThis is discussed in the book Chip War at length. I believe the answer was that if it were possible at all, it's going to be at least half a decade behind. There were a lot of other supply chain considerations which would likely apply as well.
- russli1993 2y agoa lot earlier than ppl think, and there are a lot of room to innovate on transistor structure as well even using existing litho machines
- belter 2y agoTaking into account the number of Chinese ASML employees and Chinese ASML ex-employees they probably have a copy of all engineering plans by now... https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/27/asml_china_data_spying/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/27/asml_china_data_spyin...
- qball 2y agoActually building them, of course, is another matter entirely.
- mharig 2y agoThey can make 7 nm chips in quantity. And one or even 2 years ago there were fotos of a few exemplars of China made 5 nm chips floating around. Concerning smaller structures, I have the gut feeling that they instead want to go for optical chips.
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoFrom the articles I read, they are making 7 nm on old dutch (AMSL?) equipment and their yields aren't great (they get quantity by just throwing money at the yield problem). > The chip was fabricated by China’s Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation, or SMIC, a silicon foundry. (The Commerce Department says SMIC makes chips for the Chinese military, a charge the company denies.) SMIC produces the Kirin 9000s using Deep Ultraviolet lithography equipment acquired before the latest American sanctions. Huawei’s claim to have produced 7nm circuits was verified by the Canadian firm TechInsights and by Tilly Zhang of Gavekal Dragonomics. > To begin, the DUV process “success rate”—that is, the percentage of chips coming off the manufacturing line that actually work as designed—may or may not be up to the industry norm. Neither SMIC nor Huawei are releasing much data about the new chip or its production process. As Gavekal’s Zhang has noted, SMIC may have pushed the DUV process as far as it will go, reaping only 40 percent or fewer usable chips. Huawei's competitors, such as Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., have been producing 7nm chips for over five years; their success rate generally tops 90 percent. (https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2023/11/size-isnt-everything-chinas-new-chip-less-earthshaking-you-may-have-heard/391910/ https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2023/11/size-isnt-everythin...) It isn't commercially viable yet, but it can be subsidized. They do talk about using their own lithography equipment soon.
- Havoc 2y agoSurprised to see a picture of a High NA EUV machine. Would have thought even that would be guard even if one can’t really see the interesting bits
- novolunt 2y ago[dead]
- ChrisArchitect 2y ago[dupe] More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40426843 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40426843
- ElectricBoogie 2y agoCIA doesn't trust this, will use military to blow up TSMC in the event the Chinese invade. But the Chinese will just keep slowly taking over the US government, making this policy of questionable use. LOL.
- Qem 2y ago> CIA doesn't trust this, will use military to blow up TSMC in the event the Chinese invade. So, it's less a 'Kill Switch' against China and more of a 'Please Don't Kill Us Switch' against US?
- ruslan 2y agoIt's hard to find a machine that does not have a remote control nowadays. Also I'm sure there are tons of RSA key activated software running on that machine. But the real kill switch would be people who know how to deal with such level of complexity.
- Log_out_ 2y ago3 gorges dam has a similar kill switch..
- hulitu 2y ago> TSMC Has a Kill Switch in the event of a Chinese invasion Did they tested it ? /s