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but sam said he was sorry in all lowercase so it must be okay
by 0x5f3759df-i 2y ago
but sam said he was sorry in all lowercase so it must be okay
- 3abiton 2y agoHe's on the board of AI safety too. Now I feel protected.
- minimaxir 2y agoSemi off-topic, but the trend of AI influencers adopting the all-lowercase communication style in professional conversation has been very annoying. It makes them appear completely unserious. I recently received an job recruitment email for an AI role in all-lowercase and I was baffled how to interpret it.
- atonse 2y agoYou're so right, it's utterly distracting to read a statement written in all lower case. It looks like it was written in a sloppy way and nobody actually proofread it. I think Sergey Brin used to do the same thing (or maybe it was Larry Page). I remember reading that in some google court case emails and thinking, the show Silicon Valley wasn't even remotely exaggerating.
- dankwizard 2y agoyoure not worth moving my pinky to the shift key, and you think that missed apostrophe was a mistake? im busy running a billion dollar company i dont have time for this
- fragmede 2y agowho's using a hardware keyboard these days?
- danielmarkbruce 2y agoGive it a year, it will become very uncool as people realize only people not using AI to make their writing better would send syntactically or grammatically incorrect wording.
- jareklupinski 2y agobet
- dontupvoteme 2y agoThrow it at an LLM with the simple command "fix", highlight every character that has a delta and send it back to them. Add a grade in red at the top if you're feeling extra cheeky
- ra7 2y agoI don’t think it’s only AI influencers that do this. I’ve noticed people use lowercase as some sort of power move. Like they’re so busy and important they don’t care about conventions.
- fragmede 2y agoit's because the stupidphone's stupid keyboard capitalizes for you in the wrong places, and you have to take extra effort to fix it when they get it wrong, or you turn it off, and then get lazy about fixing it when you do need the capitalization.
- ra7 2y agoDoes it? When I start a message, the keyboard automatically capitalizes. It also does it when a sentence starts after a period. I rarely ever have to fix capitalization. (I typed this from my phone)
- HaZeust 2y agoI get incorrectly capitalized one in every 250 times the keyboard is used, I'd imagine.
- poszlem 2y agoI think you are correct. It's a status symbol at this point. It's the digital version of "inconspicuous consumption" [1]. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/07/inconspicuous-consumption/306845/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/07/inconsp...
- elevatedastalt 2y agoNo, this is a status symbol because it's a signal that these people are above norms of conventional society. What's worse is that there's a ready line of journalists talking about how capital letters promote inequality or shit like that providing coverfire for them.
- IvyMike 2y agoFollowing convention and using standard capitalization rules makes things easier on the reader. Going to all-lowercase is harder on the reader, and thus is disrespectful of the reader. I will die on this hill.
- lobsterthief 2y agoTHIS IS WHY I PREFER TO COMMUNICATE ONLY IN CAPITAL LETTERS. IT REMOVES ANY AMBIGUITY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT I’M ANGRY SINCE THE READER CAN ASSUME I’M ALWAYS SCREAMING IN THEIR FACE. I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING A NICE DAY.
- neglesaks 2y agoCaps Lock is Cruise Control for Cool, right? ;o)
- joquarky 2y agoI miss Usenet taglines
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- cpeterso 2y agoI’ve worked with people who write in all lowercase, but I’ve never worked with someone who writes in ALL CAPS. How long could someone write in ALL CAPS before they get fired?
- whatshisface 2y agoYOUR JOB ADVERTISEMENT SPECIFIED VERY MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE STOP HOW DO I WORK THIS DIFFERENCE ENGINE STOP
- dmvdoug 2y agoI guffawed (briefly), with a diminishing chortle thereafter. Well played and cheerio.
- simondotau 2y agoWriting in all lowercase is an aesthetic akin to an executive wearing jeans and a T-shirt. It is supposed to impart an air of self-confidence, that you don’t need to signal your seriousness in order to be taken seriously. However such signalling is harder to pull off than it seems, and most who try do it poorly because they don’t realise that the casual aesthetic isn't just a lack of care. Steve Jobs famously eschewed the suit for jeans and mock turtleneck. But those weren’t really casual clothes, those mock turtlenecks were bespoke, tailored garments made by a revered Japanese fashion designer. That is a world apart from throwing on whatever brand of T-shirt happens to feel comfortable to the wearer.
- voganmother42 2y agoI think it is more like wearing two polo shirts…
- lucianbr 2y agoThey have no clue which signals work and which don't, they just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. Another "Sam" signaled his superiority by playing games during meetings with investors, and it seemed to work for him, until it didn't. Also, how much is there to customize in a turtleneck? Seems like the same signal as a very expensive suit, "I have a lot of money", nothing more.
- simondotau 2y agoUnless you are very fit and have a perfect body shape, a very well tailored shirt/turtleneck can look significantly more flattering than an off-the-rack item. It'll sit well when you're in a neutral pose and stretch or pull appropriately when you gesticulate. You correctly interpreted the point I was making — Steve Jobs treated his casual look as seriously as others treat an expensive tailored suit. And the result means he's still signalling importance and success, without also signalling conformity and "old world" corporate vibes.
- InfiniteVortex 2y agoIf I received a legitimate job recruitment email for an AI role in all-lowercase I would put in the spam folder lol. sam altman typing in all lowercase letters shouldn't influence people to do the same in semi-professional environments & situations. I think Altman is trying to appear as casual, friendly, and attract the zoomer market by typing in all lowercase, it's just my speculation and perhaps I'm over-reading into it.
- wayeq 2y agoi've been mostly using all lowercase for decades.. am i the asshole?
- internetter 2y agowhy?
- downloadram 2y agonot at all, its a stylistic preference for some but its also easier and faster. i've been typing lowercase on PC [faster] and mobile [preference] for as long as i can remember; only using capitalization and punctuation where it feels necessary and for emphasis ..and to the best of my knowledge no one i chat with thinks it's strange, and no one on any forum has said anything about it either. the hate in this thread is just directed at Sam and since he does this, also at this since i've always typed like this i've joked with my mother that if i ever send her a message with proper capitalization and punctuation, its a secret signal that i've been kidnapped!
- opdahl 2y agoCan you please explain to me how it is faster? You click shift and the character at the same time.
- 1123581321 2y agoSame. It’s something you learned if you did a lot of chat (irc, icq, battle.net etc.) before smartphones. It makes sense young people wouldn’t know it’d been a default, faster way to type.
- 01100011 2y agoright? as i said in my other comment, this has been a thing since at least the 80s when i got behind a keyboard. i don't normally do it anymore, but for this post i've gone sans-caps. kickin it old school. (yaimadork)
- Cadwhisker 2y agoIf I see a job application with spelling or grammar mistakes in it, then it's a huge red flag; it tells me that this person does not care about accuracy or they don't check their work very well. These are very important attributes to have in engineering. If you see it in a job advert, I'd assume the same for the people who are doing the hiring.
- harrison_clarke 2y agoi read an article about bauhaus typography in high school and mostly dropped capitalization since then (~2005) whether i use them or not is basically a function of how much i think there will be consequences for not using them. if i do use them without coercion, it's for Emphasis, or acronyms (like AI), or maybe sPoNgEbOb CaSe i'm not sure where AI CEOs, or younger generations picked it up. but the "only use capitals when coerced" part seems similar
- 01100011 2y agolowercase has been used by propeller heads and hackers since.. idk.. the 80s? some of us just liked it better that way.
- xawxaw 2y ago> I recently received an job recruitment email Yet you use "an" for a vowel that's miles away, so I don't like the way you type either.
- joquarky 2y agoPostmodernism is consuming everything
- atleastoptimal 2y agoit’s the same as the tech lax dresscode, super high salaries, benefits, overall relaxed “we can get away with it because we’re both high status and enlightened” that operates as a signal to their assumed superiority.
- tdeck 2y agoIt looks especially odd when the text contains other "formalities" like semicolons, or writing the phrase "full stop". Aside: "full stop" is the Commonwealth English way of saying "period" so it seems like an affectation to see an American using it.