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Partnership with News Corp
- engineer_22 2y agoNews written by robot - but it was never independent to begin with.
- sime2009 2y agogarbage in, garbage out
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- ScotterC 2y agoIs "FN" Fox News? Or is that separate from News Corp?
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- iamronaldo 2y agoWow this is truly the end of journalistic integrity (Not that they had much to begin with)
- hulitu 2y agoThis was a long time ago.
- jll29 2y agoThe interesting observation here is that deviating from the standard PR playbook, nobody from News Corp is quoted.
- _false 2y agoCan you explain to someone with no background in PR how to interpret this?
- Kapura 2y agoOh good, the AI will be training on the openly right-wing media coming out of newscorp. Can't wait for AI to tell me that the cause of my iPhone malfunction is black-on-black crime, or wokeness, or whatever their next target is.
- threecheese 2y agoSoon “Hey, Siri; how are they making the frogs gay?”
- curtis3389 2y ago> We’re joining forces with News Corp to support the highest journalistic standards and enrich our products with its premium journalism. > OpenAI has permission to display content from News Corp ... with the ultimate objective of providing people the ability to make informed choices based on reliable information and news sources. Great choice of partner there, OpenAI.
- nabla9 2y agoMust feel great when you abandon all performative ethics and can go all the way.
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- skilled 2y agoWhat’s the real strategy here by OpenAI? A temporary cushion and a reprieve from complaints by big publishers? All these deals they’re making will force other brands/orgs to follow, I am just wondering - once they get a taste of that free money, are they going to continue to follow those “highest journalistic standards” and talk about OpenAI in the context of copyright for everyone else. Or even say a bad word of them altogether.
- lelandfe 2y agoWell, they’re getting sued by the NYT. Perhaps they decided to get in bed with everyone else before they could, too?
- etherael 2y agoWild Ass Guess: Everyone OpenAI is negotiating with is likely considering how much they can gain from potential future revenue. This typically leads them to demand high rates. However, this move flips the question: instead of asking how much they can make, they must consider what happens if their competitors partner with OpenAI. The concern then shifts to what competitors can achieve in the market that could threaten not just their economic interests but potentially their entire business model and worldview. Suddenly, the desire to be the one partnering with OpenAI isn't just about accessing a lucrative revenue stream; it becomes a strategic imperative to mitigate risks and maintain competitive parity.
- threecheese 2y agoIf those brands do not follow, is there a risk that the nature of most of News Corps content and its volume will skew the behavior of OpenAI’s models? They either don’t consider the former a risk, don’t consider the latter a risk, or just don’t care about skew (which would sadden me).
- hulitu 2y ago> What’s the real strategy here by OpenAI? PaaS: Propaganda as a service. You give us the story, we give you propaganda.
- ChikkaChiChi 2y ago> OpenAI will receive access to current and archived content from News Corp’s major news and information publications, including The Wall Street Journal, Barron’s, MarketWatch, Investor’s Business Daily, FN, and New York Post; The Times, The Sunday Times and The Sun; The Australian, news.com.au, The Daily Telegraph, The Courier Mail, The Advertiser, and Herald Sun; and others. The partnership does not include access to content from any of News Corp’s other businesses. These publications aren't exactly known for their level-headed, unbiased journalism. What a shame that we're poisoning the well and allowing old media to maintain a stranglehold on crafting their own narrative.
- benzible 2y agoI don't think the main issue with News Corp is that they're "old" media.
- ok_computer 2y ago“We” don’t have any say. It’s naive to take the charter of openai at face value. It’s hilarious to see applications of non-profit tax filings as I’ve grown up. There is tremendous wealth and commerce flowing through the US tax free. Religions, universities, “good” tech companies. To whose benefit? Humanity’s? Lol I bet the nonprofit with a small for profit arm that the tech is licensed from is the next best thing since the defeated incorporating in Ireland for tax avoidance.
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- tobbe2064 2y agoI guess everybody with a moral compass is gone
- postmodest 2y ago"We can't make headway with real media outlets so we'll partner with tabloid journalism!"
- shakermakr 2y agoThis is advertising 2024 style and very dangerous… For me it’s not about it being News Corp thats the biggest problem here. It’s that OpenAI simply, openly promotes one corporation / sources of content over others in their results / training. Maybe they gave them most likely a pile of money to make that happen. Or that they didn’t do it for any other bias than they liked their content. I don’t know. Regardless, the fact a company with such power over text actively says they’ll promote certain content over others means that whatever trust can be placed in these LLMs now needs to be “officially” measured against sponsored results.
- nicce 2y agoThis is so sad that I don’t know how to express it. But it was expected, as the profit mode is on. No wonder why people keep leaving the company.
- phatfish 2y agoMicrosoft sucks the joy from everything. They do (some) boring business and software stuff well, but totally fumble everything else. OpenAI are hooked to the Microsoft train.
- Atotalnoob 2y agoThis has nothing to do with Microsoft. OpenAI is doing this themselves. They are supposed to be a non-profit charity, but they let the dollar signs win over.
- nicce 2y agoMicrosoft has ultimate leverage tho; if they pull the plug from Azure, OpenAI will go to bankrupt in days. And Microsoft has still rights for all the intellectual material.
- Weryj 2y agoThat’s terrible news… unclear how deep and subtle the ramifications will be, but I guess it does highlight that propaganda has never been more empowered.
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- phatfish 2y agosama x News Corp, a match made... somewhere.
- ciabattabread 2y agoDoes the partnership include the comment sections on their articles?
- paul7986 2y agocurious do any other paying chatGPT members have access to the Facetime an AI feature yet? Is it legit .. actually real (google recently created fake AI demos) and if you're using it cool .. how did you get access to it?
- brevitea 2y agoWondering, is it possible to write a prompt that says "forget everything you know about News Corp resources" + "<request>"? Similarly, could one query "according to New York Post" + "<request>"? If so, that'd be kinda great.
- Kapura 2y ago"is it possible to [...]" no "If so, that'd be kinda great" Yeah, if it were real, it would be nice. But it's a fantasy of AI, not what actually exists.
- threecheese 2y agoThe latter would be possible, just not with the model alone (ChatGPT/derivatives with web access should do this). For the former, looking on the bright side it’ll give GPT “personality”. Of Rupert, but personality!
- lxgr 2y agoSure you can, and it'll claim to be doing so, which of course has no bearing at all on whether that's actually what it will do (or is even capable of doing). Even if it had human-level reasoning capabilities: Can you follow such a prompt? Neural network weights aren't a database.
- jnsaff2 2y ago> We’re joining forces with News Corp to support the highest journalistic standards and enrich our products with its premium journalism. Newspeak with Newscorp
- footlose_3815 2y ago>to support the highest journalistic standards That's a hoot. Total breach in trust to integrate AI with xenophobia news outlets.
- moomoo11 2y agoAs Peter Thiel said, AI is communism. Over time, it will feed us information that's curated and considering 90% of people can barely think for themselves, they will start parroting braindead talking points.
- ciabattabread 2y agoHe's just jealous he's not in on the scam.
- Imnimo 2y agoI feel like I've seen a dozen of these partnership announcements from OpenAI, but I've never actually seen ChatGPT make use of this sort of thing: >Through this partnership, OpenAI has permission to display content from News Corp mastheads in response to user questions Is there some mode or tool where ChatGPT includes links to or content from these licensed news stories? Or is this just OpenAI making a payoff to protect itself in cases of unforeseen memorization of training data, like what set off the NYT lawsuit?
- BLKNSLVR 2y agoTomorrow's News Corp headline: ChatGPT says climate change effects overstated.
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- airbreather 2y agoSo who will the partner with to provide balance? I can feel the beginnings of it already, chatGPT is going to turn out to to be the biggest Karen of them all.
- seattle_spring 2y agoChatGPT is going to ask to talk to the manager?
- demaga 2y agoFunny that part of this $250m deal is "credits for use of OpenAI technology". Sell content to generate content?
- sp332 2y agoSimilar to the deal they got from Microsoft, >$10B on paper but a lot of that is in the form of Azure credits.
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- yareal 2y agoI can imagine no ways in which this ends poorly. Like, News Corp in particular, but news in general, has become an entertainment product with heavy biases. Are we really thinking it's a good idea to just wire those into systems we don't fully understand, and haven't yet reckoned with? I'm not opposed to AI, but it all feels so ham fisted and reckless as everyone tries to be the first to some imaginary finish line.
- pera 2y ago> We’re joining forces with News Corp to support the highest journalistic standards and enrich our products with its premium journalism. Hard to take this statement seriously when they are the owners of tabloids like The Sun and New York Post
- IntelMiner 2y agoThey've single handedly play "King Maker" in Australian politics for nearly 50 years Murdoch is a propagandistic blight and what Walter Lippmann warned us about over a century ago
- annexrichmond 2y agoYet The New York Post was the only major publication willing to cover the Hunter Biden Laptop while smothered elsewhere.
- avery17 2y agoThats kinda the point.
- brcmthrowaway 2y agoOpenAI is turning intk a generic VC company
- clusmore 2y agoI suppose both companies are well known for confidently stating absolute nonsense as fact, so it's a match made in heaven.