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Iran president helicopter in hard landing – state media
- h2odragon 2y agoAP says Raisi was on board: https://apnews.com/article/iran-helicopter-raisi-b483ba75e4339cfb0fe00c7349d023b8 https://apnews.com/article/iran-helicopter-raisi-b483ba75e43...
- yodon 2y agoSeason 8 of Homeland is based on an event like this
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- kome 2y agovery sad, i hope they will be find alive. but i fear it won't be possible.
- impulser_ 2y agoThere are more people happy about this than sad that's for sure. Apparently Abdollahian was also on the helicopter as well. 2 for 1. Raisi and Abdollahian got served by Karma.
- Slava_Propanei 2y ago[dead]
- PeterHolzwarth 2y agoA by-far more common sentiment is that it will be sad if he is found alive.
- r721 2y agoWeather conditions seem to be quite harsh in the area: https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1792192211834286292 https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1792192211834286292 https://t.me/irna_1313/283983 https://t.me/irna_1313/283983
- Ajay-p 2y agoI often wonder if Britain and America had not conspired to overthrow Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, where Iran might be today.
- genman 2y agoHard to say as there is also Afghanistan where something like this did not happen. https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/incredible-scenes-of-womens-liberation-in-1970s-afghanistan/ https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/incredible-scenes-of-womens-li...
- whatwhaaaaat 2y agoWhat is the point of the linked source? Afghanistan was a war zone for empires just like everywhere else in this region. Who do you think financed the taliban to fight russia?
- genman 2y agoIsn't the point obvious? Just a little nitpick - US didn't finance Taliban. Taliban was formed after Russia stopped occupation in Afghanistan. Taliban was formed because US stopped paying attention.
- whatwhaaaaat 2y agoNo the point is not obvious. We spent 25 years getting pictures of extremely isolated instances of afghans wearing western clothes as some justification for continued occupation. Exactly the same playbook tried with Iran. Is the point to foster renewed interest in occupation by sharing misleading photos of isolated locations? Operation cyclone led directly to the creation of the taliban.
- genman 2y agoThese photos (how many of photos there are at all from that period in Afghanistan?) show that Afghan women were able to wear highly revealing clothing in public, like were Iranian women at the time. Something that this day is extremely unlikely in Afghanistan and Iran. Different histories, same outcome - the point being - we really do not know what would have happened in Iran. If you didn't know then Iranian revolution did not start as Islamic revolution. It started as popular revolution against shah but the other revolutionaries were eliminated by the Islamists.
- DeathArrow 2y agoIt was an accident?
- r721 2y agoAP story says: >A helicopter carrying Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi suffered a “hard landing” on Sunday, Iranian state media reported, without elaborating. Some began urging the public to pray for Raisi and the others on board as rescue crews sped through a misty, rural forest where his helicopter was believed to be. https://apnews.com/article/iran-helicopter-raisi-b483ba75e4339cfb0fe00c7349d023b8 https://apnews.com/article/iran-helicopter-raisi-b483ba75e43...
- Finnucane 2y agoNo details at all, presumably not much will be known until it is found. Presumably if Iran had even a tiny reason to blame it on an enemy, they would already be doing that.
- dgellow 2y agoWay too early to say, better to wait and see
- djfobbz 2y agoReference: CIA
- submeta 2y ago[flagged]
- petemir 2y agoOr an accident that they try to pass as an assassination attempt, or an internal attack they try to pass as a foreign attack. Who knows. We certainly do not.
- jimbob45 2y agoHow would this benefit Israel? Wouldn’t Khamanei just appoint someone equally or potentially even more extremist? Killing a general is one thing because there is experience and wisdom lost but politicians are largely replaceable.
- submeta 2y agoTo provoke an Iranian reaction and involve the US into an all out war with Iran. A goal pursued by Netanyahu for two decades.
- jimbob45 2y agoBut it would have made vastly more sense to do that when Israel had casus belli after Iran’s massive drone strike last month. Also, fighting a two-front war is very difficult even under ideal conditions (see: Hitler).
- impulser_ 2y agoBased on the weather report in the region. It almost certainly an accident.
- pseudosavant 2y agoThe other two choppers in the convey safely landed, but they don't know exactly where the chopper crashed? Hmmm.
- maybelsyrup 2y ago[flagged]
- danielovichdk 2y agoThe odds are against this being an accident. On the other hand a few other presidents and ex-presidents would help us all if they disappeared in accidents
- Someone 2y ago> The odds are against this being an accident. What makes you think so? Looking for data, I found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_and_government_who_died_in_aviation_accidents_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_and_gov.... It lists 3 helicopter accidents (one of them this year) and one helicopter bombing. Also, weather in the region apparently isn’t good for safely flying helicopters (FTA: “He said the visibility in the mountainous and wooded area was down to only about five meters.”) That, to me, doesn’t support a claim “The odds are against this being an accident”. Do you have data that does?
- apgwoz 2y agoWell, clearly, the assassins _made_ the weather difficult for helicopters so they could plausibly deny accountability like any good assassin.
- ajsnigrutin 2y agoOr waited for a moment where it could be made deniable.
- ajsnigrutin 2y agoI mean.. there are a few countries that have problems with Iran and have the means to do it.
- screye 2y agoSomehow it's always helicopter crashes. Important people die in these crashes all the time. It's cuz they're unsafe, not malicious intent. The Indian head of military forces, the Leicester city billionare.... those are just a couple off the top of my head.
- xenospn 2y ago50 bucks says Israel will be blamed for his death before the end of the day.
- nashashmi 2y agoThey dont have anything against the president.
- invalidname 2y agoExcept for the fact that he called for its destruction repeatedly. Provided missiles, drones, weapons and trainings to its enemies... It's speculated the Oct 7th attack was based on a direct order from Tehran due to their fear of normalization between Israel and the Saudis. I don't think Israel did this mostly because it's subtle and the current Israeli government doesn't tend to do subtle. But I won't be surprised.
- nashashmi 2y agoThat was not the president.
- invalidname 2y agoWhich of my multiple assertions were not him? Is he not responsible for the executions of thousands of dissidents? Did he not wish frequently for the destruction of Israel? Is he not behind the subjugation of women? You're framing this as Israel, Iran etc. The problem is in specific governments not inherently in the countries. Israel and Iran used to have a great relationship before the Islamic revolution. Many Iranian expats live in Israel. People like Raisi are a huge part of the problem. He's one of the boogiemen who Netanyahu (and people like him) use to rise to power.
- nashashmi 2y agoThose laws existed long before he came into office.
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- globalnode 2y agoi would never get into a helicopter, they dont have wings! how you gonna even attempt a crash landing if things go wrong? and you cant parachute out of one with giant blades spinning above your head... part of me thinks its an IQ test.
- nickburns 2y agohow you gonna even attempt a crash landing if things go wrong? autorotation[0]. the higher the altitude, the better. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation
- Jtsummers 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation Autorotation allows for a landing in the case of power loss, this is an old technique. It can still lead to a hard landing, but it's not totally uncontrolled.
- pixard 2y agoWow TIL, thanks!
- gilmore606 2y agoDoing this in a trainer helicopter without doors was the most terrifying experience of my life. You don't want to do this if you don't have to.
- justinclift 2y agoMeanwhile, the BBC is saying "Iran president helicopter in hard landing". Does that seem like the BBC is well into new-speak territory these days?
- xenospn 2y agoThey all say that
- justinclift 2y agoNY Times (the first one I saw) is saying "crashed".
- jemmyw 2y agoIt's not new speak, hard landing is a technical term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_landing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_landing
- pseudosavant 2y agoWhy is this flagged? Every major media outlet is running this story, and it isn't like the BBC is some fringe news agency.
- Mobil1 2y ago[dead]
- Aleksdev 2y agoCrazy story, I wonder what kind of ripple effect this will cause in that region.