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Claude is now available in Europe
- spiderfarmer 2y agoClaudebot is one of the most aggressive scraping bots I have encountered on my server in recent years. Because of that I'll block everything related to Claude.
- JPLeRouzic 2y agoFor me (https://padiracinnovation.org https://padiracinnovation.org), it's Google which scans several times a day, which is astonishing for a blog updated once a week. ********** http://www.google.com/bot.html http://www.google.com/bot.html 449 http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm 254 http://yandex.com/bots http://yandex.com/bots 159 imagesift.com 117 claudebot@anthropic.com 69 http://www.facebook.com/externalhit_uatext.php http://www.facebook.com/externalhit_uatext.php 36 https://dataforseo.com/dataforseo-bot https://dataforseo.com/dataforseo-bot 34 http://www.apple.com/go/applebot http://www.apple.com/go/applebot 32 https://webmaster.petalsearch.com/site/petalbot https://webmaster.petalsearch.com/site/petalbot 22 https://scrapy.org https://scrapy.org 9 http://www.semrush.com/bot.html http://www.semrush.com/bot.html 4 https://developers.google.com/ https://developers.google.com/ 2 https://openai.com/bot https://openai.com/bot" 2 http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm 2 http://code.google.com/appengine http://code.google.com/appengine; appid: s~feedly-nikon3 2 http://www.pinterest.com/bot.html http://www.pinterest.com/bot.html 1 https://www.mojeek.com/bot.html https://www.mojeek.com/bot.html 1 http://www.reddit.com/feedback http://www.reddit.com/feedback 1 https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura 1
- spiderfarmer 2y agoI have no trouble with Google as they have a way less aggressive crawl rate and Google actually sends me website traffic. Claude only takes. Google takes and gives.
- iLoveOncall 2y agoIn the example above, Claude's crawler is on a whooping 0.0008 TPS, not exactly a DDOS attack. I'm not against blocking Claude for the reason you outline (or all LLM crawlers for that matter), but it's not exactly an "aggressive crawl rate".
- spiderfarmer 2y agoOn my server with 70 sites with about 100.000.000 unique pages I saw 60 urls per second regularly. Not even Googlebot hammers my server at that rate.
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- iLoveOncall 2y agoThat's 0.00006% of all your pages per second. Even if it's sustained it really isn't much at all. At this rate sustained it would take more than 20 days to crawl all the pages. Again, this is really not painting the picture you want it to paint.
- rurban 2y agoFor me it's semrush, not being able to understand robots.txt wildcards, and 20x more traffic than normal bots. What are they doing on a movie site anyway? No problem with claudebot
- gorbypark 2y agoThey banned my account a few weeks back because I asked it to translate some Japanese text that was on a kitchen knife. Still no response from their Trust & Safety team. It's frustrating because Claude is really quite good at coding and I used it frequently.
- SturgeonsLaw 2y agoTrust and safety folks are the biggest bunch of weenies around. Yeah I said it.
- benreesman 2y agoI’m not sure I’d put it like that (again anyways, I had a bad time when I did), but it is a really important point: when did these folks start legislating from Atherton or whatever (Le Defense)? Doing harmful shit via computers is already really friggin illegal, and if we need even more draconian computer crime laws? I say they get passed by like, a legislature or something. Fuck private individuals and/or corporations arrogating regulatory power to themselves. Yeah, I said it.
- Shish2k 2y ago> when did these folks start legislating Just making sure I’m understanding the situation correctly - these folks have gone beyond “controlling the output of their own APIs”, and they are now using government power to limit what you can do with your own software running on your own hardware??
- benreesman 2y agoYeah, there are both executive orders and legislation under consideration limiting available weight models: Mistral did their last big release as a magnet link on X. Throw in the changes around the T2 HSM, the creepy semi-visible quarantine permissions, and OpenPhilanthropy lobbying to the tune of like, 100+ million a year. Yeah, you are in grave jeopardy of not being able to easily, legally access available-weight, operator-aligned models.
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- dang 2y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40353064 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40353064.
- cbg0 2y agoAs someone who lives in an ex-communist country, I can tell you that you're wrong and the comparison is silly.
- krono 2y agoYou wouldn't know if they're doing a good enough job of it, that's the point of censorship.
- andsoitends 2y agoIt truly is. Like Google's AI that does not let you create images of faces rolls eyes It is just kinda silly, when ChatGPT cannot tell me how to make a bot to publish posts on my own forum (I did it myself in the end) saying it is for ethical reasons, when OpenAI bots scrape tonnes of sites daily in such an aggressive manner that it comes near to a DOS attack =/
- hickelpickle 2y agoThere was a post awhile back on here of someone that couldn't get bard to write c++ as it said they were too young. I thought that was funny, then had like a week where what I assume a specific iteration(It stopped after that week) where chatgpt would refuse to elaborate on anything around unsafe rust. I'm pickign rust up by porting over a bytecode vm, so I kinda need to use some raw pointers. It would gaslight me about the risks and how it would be irresponsible to help me as it could lead to possible violations of the integrity of user data. I had to explain to the AI that it is a personal project that has no users data, the only risk was the program crashing and it was a personal project that would only affect me. It still would try to revert or tell me other solutions, I finally just went and read up on it elsewhere.
- brylie 2y agoThe voice user interface for natural two-way conversation is GPT’s killer feature. Gemini also suppports voice input, which I use to make interactions easier on desktop. Hopefully Anthopic will add at least speech-to-text support, although I understand smartphones often include that already. That said, the OpenAI Whisper TTS is really nice for English language input.
- op00to 2y agoI find the two way voice to be unnatural and difficult to manage. I also find myself needing more time to compose my thoughts in the middle of a prompt than the ChatGPT conversation input allows me. The weird breaths and stuff kinda creep me out.
- brylie 2y agoGood point, the cadence and intonation can feel unnatural. I still believe that voice user interface is one of the more power and profound shifts these tools offer. They’re among the first generation of technologies that can parse human speech, follow commands, and if desired respond with speech. Those capabilities are more powerful when coupled with the ability to compress vast amounts of knowledge and generalize. Like anything, LLMs and multi-modal models are far from perfect and raise many ethical and philosophical concerns. I’m cautiously optimistic as I believe voice interaction can make technology much more widely accessible and helpful to many people.
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- matesz 2y agoSo, in general Claude still beats newest GPT-4o model in software development category, right? [1] Although new GPT is better at small coding excercises (72.9% vs 68.4%), it falls behind in more challenging refactoring tasks (62.9% vs 72.3%). I used Claude through VPN from Europe, and from the start could see it was much better than GPT-4, in my limited very subjective use cases. [1] https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/ https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/
- anonzzzies 2y agoIt is better in my case too; need a RAG open router VS Code extension that can be used with whatever you choose. I tried a few but they are either too expensive (i'm already paying for the AI, don't wanna pay monthly for an extension) or really don't work.
- hiq 2y ago> So, in general Claude still beats newest GPT-4o model in software development category, right? [1] I'm genuinely curious to which extent widely published benchmarks can be used for this kind of assessment. The exercises this benchmark uses seem to be available in https://github.com/exercism/python/tree/main/exercises https://github.com/exercism/python/tree/main/exercises, and it seems that there are solutions at least at https://exercism.org/tracks/python/exercises/series/solutions https://exercism.org/tracks/python/exercises/series/solution.... Overfitting used to be a concern when it came to comparing ML models, but it feels like it's not being talked about that much anymore, is it? What if one model has the exercism solutions in its training data, but the other model doesn't, is the comparison still fair? If it solves 70% of the exercism exercises correctly, would it perform as well on similar prompting for unseen problems (which are more likely to be what I care about)?
- matesz 2y ago> What if one model has the exercism solutions in its training data, but the other model doesn't, is the comparison still fair? I agree that it might not be fair. However, refactoring is a different story imo since as I see it relates to more general capability of the model (description about refactoring tasks are in the link from previous comment).
- TekMol 2y agoIf you are willing to make an account. I don't. There are enough free and open LLMs now which you can use without an account.
- kenniskrag 2y agoWhich ones? I try to learn how these systems work
- ColinHayhurst 2y agoAnd without a mobile number. What is it with these US AI companies requiring mobile numbers?
- jpalomaki 2y agoIt's an easy (obviously not perfect) way to have some limit on the number of accounts you create.
- colibri727 2y agoI cancelled my mobile phone subscription, and this a problem I'm facing. What workarounds are available for people who have no mobile phone number when they want to so sign in to a service that requires a phone number for validation ?
- ColinHayhurst 2y agoCode verification failure on UK mobile number. So is it a EU launch not Europe?
- anonzzzies 2y agoI verified on a UK number weeks ago. It was available in the UK for a while already, but not in the EU.
- ColinHayhurst 2y agothanks. tried everything I can think of, still no luck, run out of ideas. If Anthropic want some business they can get in touch. For Claude direct, at least until then, I'll carry on using you on Poe for chat. Will go elsewhere for APIs.
- scoot 2y agoYes, it's an EU launch – the article is incorrectly titled. The terms of service update email has it correct: "Claude.ai is now available to users in the EU." But that isn't the cause of your issue – it's been available in the UK for quite some time.
- dinp 2y agoI don't understand their api not being intended for individual use [0], are developers supposed to use this subscription only? The haiku model is pretty good for the price + available large context, and the opus/sonnet models are in the league of gpt-4, so I would have liked to pay for the api. I've moved on to llama 3 70B as a daily driver and it works really well! The only issue is it's small context size and it doesn't work great if you give it a lot of files to work with. Currently I'm forced to break down problems a lot more than I had to with gpt-4 or the claude models. I know I can access the claude api through 3rd party sites + official partners, but there's no incentive to go through the trouble when llama 3 and gpt-4 apis work great for my use cases. [0] https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/8987200-can-i-use-the-claude-api-for-individual-use https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/8987200-can-i-use-...
- h4x0rr 2y agoMeanwhile I was using it from germany all the time, not even with a vpn. It just works with occasional notifications "not available in europe", but literally just for a few seconds in the top right corner
- polynomial 2y agoWhoopsie.
- qxfys 2y agohave been using it from sweden all this time. without vpn.
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- pelagicAustral 2y agoClaude is superb at some tasks, much better than Mistral or ChatGPT at times... The other day I got stuck doing some research that involved a heavily obfuscated piece of JS, there was absolutely no way forward using ChatGPT, I switched to Claude and I got the whole file sorted in no time. It really was able to determine all the passes the and techniques used to obfuscate the code and work through them in an iterative way...
- WhereIsTheTruth 2y ago0 job openings in Europe outside of London, how will AI solve this?
- DeathArrow 2y agoSeems nice, I just asked it to generate a learning plan for applying dynamical systems in machine learning.
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- reneberlin 2y agoNow i can cancel my NordVPN subscription.
- flemhans 2y agoI already had access somehow before this, despite being in Europe.
- free_bip 2y agoStill not available in Canada. Why? What possible regulation could be preventing use here but not in Europe?