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That year of Model X didn't have a driver facing camera. If he managed to sleep while putting a little bit of pressure on the wheel it might have just kept goin

• culopatin 2y ago
  Those sound like terrible way of solving it. I would rather the car attempt to keep driving to my destination than stop in the middle of a busy road or stop holding the wheel mid turn and send the car to the guardrail/sidewalk
  • Aeolun 2y ago
    Yeah, stopping on a highway sounds like a terrible idea. Having the car make more and more insistent annoying noises when there’s no response, and then signal the police sounds like a better one.
    • saalweachter 2y ago
      "How to bail out of any situation" should really be self-driving step 0. If your car can't figure out how to pull off onto the shoulder it shouldn't be driving down the highway. Now, how that applies to cruise control or lane centering, damned if I know.
      • galangalalgol 2y ago
        It absolutely could do that, but that would likely transfer legal liability once it deviated from operator inputs. The lawsuits around automatic braking and traction control are still about how the operators commands were interpreted, and they were bad enough. This would be explicitly deviating from operator commands. These are silly problems from an engineering standpoint, but there are other constraints.
    • worldsayshi 2y ago
      Stopping on the highway (and alerting the passenger and engaging the warning lights) sounds way better than whatever would've happened if the car wasn't able to act at all.
      • throwaway11460 2y ago
        What??? No! Driving straight is much safer. A potential collision of two cars at roughly the same speed is much less dangerous than a nearly guaranteed collision of a stopped car and a car at 120 km/h (75 mph). BTW Sweden has a low speed limit - it's 140 km/h (85 mph) where I live, but people regularly drive 160-180 km/h (~110 mph). It must go behind the highway border line if it's going to stop (and keep going if it's not possible!), but it'd be much better to pull out of the highway at the first opportunity. Definitely never just stop in the middle of a highway. Not sure if this is some kind of a US thing but here in Europe people don't expect you will stop in the middle of a highway. That's really extremely dangerous.
        • alkonaut 2y ago
          It's also dangerous to drive on the shoulder. Perhaps the safest thing is to keep going while it's obviusly just highway, perhaps a bit under the speed limit (low enough to get the attention of other drivers but high enough to not cause collisions). It could navigate to the slowest possible road and just park. Maybe drive with one wheel on the shoulder at 80km/h road on a 90km/h road, with warning lights and headlights blinking, car horn sounding etc. Worst case if the car approaches the end of the highway and there is a shoulder maybe it could stop there. After all, it's what any driver would have to do with a flat tire anyway (the self driving car can't run out and place a warning triangle 100m behind the car though).
        • worldsayshi 2y ago
          What are you even comparing (and what are you even implying that my point is)? Sounds like you're comparing an automatic stop system to an ideal autonomous driving system. I was comparing stopping in a controlled way to what would happen if you don't have a system that control the car when you fall asleep at all. Obviously driving the vehicle like a human being would be the best option...
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• Zufriedenheit 2y ago
  Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering about that driver facing camera. Didn’t know that the 2019 model didn’t have it. Other OEMs use infrared sensors for that. A camera is a bit spooky to me from a privacy standpoint. Nevertheless Teslas newer models should be able to prevent this situation with it.
• insane_dreamer 2y ago
  > stop in the middle of the road I hope that means safely pull over to the side of the road and stop.