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I wonder how many Health Refugees (Retirees) are going to Canada from the US ?

by jmclnx 3y ago

david-gpu 3y ago
Good luck immigrating to Canada as a(n old) retiree, unless you have immediate family there that can sponsor you. It's the only path I'm aware of for that sort of candidate.
- voisin 3y ago
  Simple: pay to enroll at Conestoga College.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    the key word is pay -- which is what they're doing. a quick look at their tuition calculator shows that international students pay roughly x3 for most programs compared to locals. if US boomers want to pay x3 to get access to sub-par quality care, let em. subsidize the costs for Canadian students, and the expensive surgeries for grandpa will have a wait list so long they'll have to go to the US anyways.
  - david-gpu 3y ago
    International students are not covered by public health care services, they need to purchase private insurance [0]. Once they graduate, they need to follow the same process as everybody to obtain permanent residence, and age is a big component of obtaining enough points to be selected. American retirees aren't doing that because it just doesn't make sense for them. [0] https://www.conestogac.on.ca/international/student-support/health-insurance-and-medical-care https://www.conestogac.on.ca/international/student-support/h...
adventured 3y ago
The answer is very few. The US historically has a low emigration rate. Currently immigrants are using Canada to try to get into the US, record numbers of illegal border crossings are happening from Canada to the US. https://www.newsweek.com/us-canada-border-migrants-crossing-update-latest-1892708 https://www.newsweek.com/us-canada-border-migrants-crossing-... "Officials for the Swanton Sector in Vermont said there were 1,109 apprehensions in March 2024. According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection figures, this is up from 756 in March 2023, and just 61 in March 2022. The March 2024 figure of 1,109 is higher than the total amount of crossings in all of 2022, which was 1,065." "In a post on X, Chief Patrol Agent Robert Garcia of the Border Patrol Swanton Sector said the 1,109 apprehensions last month included people from 40 different countries." "The top three nationalities apprehended were 408 Indian, 323 Bangladeshi, and 170 Mexican nationals," Garcia said.
- bawolff 3y ago
  Still seems higher in the other direction. According to https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/Pages/Irregular-border-crosser-statistics.aspx https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/Pages/Irregular-bor... there were 14,000 illegal border crossings between jan-mar 2023. Even dividing by 3, that is higher than your number.

I wonder how many Health Refugees (Retirees) are going to Canada from the US ?

by jmclnx 3y ago

I wonder how many Health Refugees (Retirees) are going to Canada from the US ?

Good luck immigrating to Canada as a(n old) retiree, unless you have immediate family there that can sponsor you. It's the only path I'm aware of for that sort of candidate.

voisin 3y ago
Simple: pay to enroll at Conestoga College.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  the key word is pay -- which is what they're doing. a quick look at their tuition calculator shows that international students pay roughly x3 for most programs compared to locals. if US boomers want to pay x3 to get access to sub-par quality care, let em. subsidize the costs for Canadian students, and the expensive surgeries for grandpa will have a wait list so long they'll have to go to the US anyways.
- david-gpu 3y ago
  International students are not covered by public health care services, they need to purchase private insurance [0]. Once they graduate, they need to follow the same process as everybody to obtain permanent residence, and age is a big component of obtaining enough points to be selected. American retirees aren't doing that because it just doesn't make sense for them. [0] https://www.conestogac.on.ca/international/student-support/health-insurance-and-medical-care https://www.conestogac.on.ca/international/student-support/h...

adventured 3y ago

The answer is very few. The US historically has a low emigration rate. Currently immigrants are using Canada to try to get into the US, record numbers of illegal border crossings are happening from Canada to the US. https://www.newsweek.com/us-canada-border-migrants-crossing-update-latest-1892708 https://www.newsweek.com/us-canada-border-migrants-crossing-... "Officials for the Swanton Sector in Vermont said there were 1,109 apprehensions in March 2024. According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection figures, this is up from 756 in March 2023, and just 61 in March 2022. The March 2024 figure of 1,109 is higher than the total amount of crossings in all of 2022, which was 1,065." "In a post on X, Chief Patrol Agent Robert Garcia of the Border Patrol Swanton Sector said the 1,109 apprehensions last month included people from 40 different countries." "The top three nationalities apprehended were 408 Indian, 323 Bangladeshi, and 170 Mexican nationals," Garcia said.

bawolff 3y ago
Still seems higher in the other direction. According to https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/Pages/Irregular-border-crosser-statistics.aspx https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/Pages/Irregular-bor... there were 14,000 illegal border crossings between jan-mar 2023. Even dividing by 3, that is higher than your number.