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Or just use Vim. Not sure I understand the obsession with VSCode.

by briandear 3y ago

levodelellis 3y ago
Have you had a good debugging experience with (neo)vim? I'm the author
- YorickPeterse 3y ago
  There are DAP extensions for both Vim (e.g. https://github.com/puremourning/vimspector https://github.com/puremourning/vimspector) and NeoVim (https://github.com/mfussenegger/nvim-dap https://github.com/mfussenegger/nvim-dap). I can't speak as to the experience in detail (I think I briefly played with nvim-dap a year or two ago), but I suspect that for most it will be good enough.
- zilti 3y ago
  And same for Emacs, great LSP and DAP integration.
  - levodelellis 3y ago
    I heard someone say gdb works great with emacs but I never had a good experience with C++ in neovim. I asked friends and they all say they use a second editor to debug which is part of why I bothered to do this
    - zilti 3y ago
      Oh, yes, I used to use gdb just a small handful of times a few years ago, but Emacs' gdb mode is very powerful. But I assume there is a gdb DAP as well by now?
- miniupuchaty 3y ago
  It's not ideal for me yet. I've had some problems with DAP. The DAP servers I've checked were a bit unstable and slow. For now I'm using gdb with nvim-gdb https://github.com/sakhnik/nvim-gdb https://github.com/sakhnik/nvim-gdb Very reliable and as fast as gdb is. But with all the problems just using gdb has.
vehemenz 3y ago
When you use the word "just," you seem to be implying that Vim is a suitable development environment out the box, when in reality it takes hours of configuration over weeks of time, conservatively. Even then it's not going to supplant VSCode or JetBrains for most people due to its limitations.
- lionkor 3y ago
  there are out of the box neovim experiences, like kickstart.vim. I've kept it largely the same, tweaking only small settings like colorscheme, some line wrapping stuff, like I would in any editor. You really dont have to take hours to install and tweak and debug 100 plugins anymore, if you dont want to
- yoyohello13 3y ago
  It’s likely more “out of the box” than developing your own text editor from scratch.
throwaway94272 3y ago
Vim is extremely inaccessible, and most people have better things to do than learning an obtuse and antiquated control scheme used for a single piece of software.

Or just use Vim. Not sure I understand the obsession with VSCode.

levodelellis 3y ago

Have you had a good debugging experience with (neo)vim? I'm the author

YorickPeterse 3y ago
There are DAP extensions for both Vim (e.g. https://github.com/puremourning/vimspector https://github.com/puremourning/vimspector) and NeoVim (https://github.com/mfussenegger/nvim-dap https://github.com/mfussenegger/nvim-dap). I can't speak as to the experience in detail (I think I briefly played with nvim-dap a year or two ago), but I suspect that for most it will be good enough.
zilti 3y ago
And same for Emacs, great LSP and DAP integration.
- levodelellis 3y ago
  I heard someone say gdb works great with emacs but I never had a good experience with C++ in neovim. I asked friends and they all say they use a second editor to debug which is part of why I bothered to do this
  - zilti 3y ago
    Oh, yes, I used to use gdb just a small handful of times a few years ago, but Emacs' gdb mode is very powerful. But I assume there is a gdb DAP as well by now?
miniupuchaty 3y ago
It's not ideal for me yet. I've had some problems with DAP. The DAP servers I've checked were a bit unstable and slow. For now I'm using gdb with nvim-gdb https://github.com/sakhnik/nvim-gdb https://github.com/sakhnik/nvim-gdb Very reliable and as fast as gdb is. But with all the problems just using gdb has.

vehemenz 3y ago

When you use the word "just," you seem to be implying that Vim is a suitable development environment out the box, when in reality it takes hours of configuration over weeks of time, conservatively. Even then it's not going to supplant VSCode or JetBrains for most people due to its limitations.

lionkor 3y ago
there are out of the box neovim experiences, like kickstart.vim. I've kept it largely the same, tweaking only small settings like colorscheme, some line wrapping stuff, like I would in any editor. You really dont have to take hours to install and tweak and debug 100 plugins anymore, if you dont want to
yoyohello13 3y ago
It’s likely more “out of the box” than developing your own text editor from scratch.

throwaway94272 3y ago

Vim is extremely inaccessible, and most people have better things to do than learning an obtuse and antiquated control scheme used for a single piece of software.