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Tesla Cybertruck No Match for Car Wash
- kleiba 3y agoWhat has the world come to?
- chrisandchris 3y ago> A call with Tesla confirmed that the truck had needed a complete reboot which took over five hours of sitting to complete. Apparently so far that we put so much software in a car that it takes multiple hours to boot.
- kleiba 3y agoWorking on updates 20% complete Don't turn off your computer
- mrpopo 3y agoAnd remember that the Cybertruck is steer by wire. The software controls the entire car, and it also happens that the software just randomly crashes.
- tetris11 3y agoThankfully steer-by-wire has been crash tested by the aviation industry...
- MissTake 3y agoThe aviation industry is also chock full of mandatory servicing requirements[1] that even lead to semi strip downs at regular intervals. However, once purchased, one is legally allowed to drive a CyberTruck no matter how old or how many issues there are (being licensed and insured etc. aside). [1] https://www.aopa.org/go-fly/aircraft-and-ownership/maintenance-and-inspections/aircraft-inspections https://www.aopa.org/go-fly/aircraft-and-ownership/maintenan...
- tetris11 3y agoAn unregulated disaster on the road waiting to happen, if I'm reading your comment correctly
- MissTake 3y agoPossibly. Possibly not. I’m no expert so I couldn’t even begin to speculate. I’m just making a statement on the regulation requirements comparison between the auto and aviation industries really.
- araes 3y agoMid-flight, "Hi, this is the captain. We're terribly sorry, but the plane will now be going into a 5 hour reboot mode. We flew through a rain cloud in the sun. Do not be alarmed when the lights turn off and the engines cease."
- daghamm 3y agoI believe almost all modern vehicles are like that. (drive by wire, not crashing all the time)
- gizmo 3y agoThe cybertruck doesn't just have drive-by-wire it has steer-by-wire. That's really unusual for cars.
- Vecr 3y agoAbsolutely not, the other current effort is on a few Lexus systems, I don't know its current status. Accelerate by wire, but drive by wire.
- IsTom 3y agoNot sure it's still like that, but for a very long time EU required that there is a mechanical linkage between steering wheel and actual steering.
- paganel 3y agoThe guy from the linked TikToks does mention that he also hosed the inside of the trunk after returning from the beach, that might have been it. That's always a risky thing to do, even on "conventional" cars (or maybe it's just Volkswagen Group cars that have a habit of electrical malfunctions every time there's water in unusual places involved). With all that said, last time a car-wash fricked up some of my car's wirings it only meant that a back-light stopped functioning for a day or two (again, maybe this is just a Volkswagen Group thing), while in this case the whole car/truck got bricked. That's not ideal.
- jdmichal 3y agoI'm not familiar with the design. Does the Cybertruck have a trunk, or are you referring to the truck bed? And if the latter, is it not intended that the bed is open-weather?
- MissTake 3y agoIt does. It’s located at the front of the vehicle and therefore known as a “frunk”.
- saalweachter 3y agoFrunk. Front-trunk. One of the more compelling things about an electric truck, TBH. Although, as unnecessarily big as they make new ICE trucks, you could probably fit a frunk in there.
- voxadam 3y ago> The guy from the linked TikToks does mention that he also hosed the inside of the trunk after returning from the beach, that might have been it. In video[0] the story links to the owner mentions that he "vacuumed the inside". It sounds like what he hosed off was the rigid tonneau[1][2] that covers the bed of the truck. If he had hosed out the interior I'd question his judgement even more than I do for him being a Cybertruck early adopter. [0] https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/status/1780306557538050532 https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/status/1780306557538050532 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonneau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonneau [2] https://insideevs.com/news/693899/tesla-cybertruck-tonneau-cover-sound-video/ https://insideevs.com/news/693899/tesla-cybertruck-tonneau-c...
- unnamed76ri 3y agoI still can’t believe cybertruck isn’t some massive joke. Like Elon one day said to his team, “make me the ugliest truck you can think of and let’s see how many people buy it.” It looks like a prototype you would see in Popular Science 30 years ago.
- littlestymaar 3y agoI have a friend working at Tesla, and he told me a few years ago that his entire team was really impatient to be done with the cybertruck so that they could work on actual cars instead.
- mojuba 3y agoThe "I am different" show-off effect of the owners is definitely at play here. Musk could have come up with arbitrary but unusual design and still sold it.
- throwaway63467 3y agoPeople love these ugly cars, Mercedes G class is one of the most popular models (and one of the most expensive ones), I think preorders are filled for years to come. Turns out there are tons of jerks that like big, intimidating looking cars that they can pose with.
- bamboozled 3y agoYou find g class intimidating ? Beautiful looking things?
- elisharobinson 3y ago[flagged]
- unnamed76ri 3y agoOkay then. lol You projected an awful lot onto me based on me just saying the truck is ugly. And what is the use case for being the fastest truck? Speed limits exist. It’s not like I’m going drive a load of lumber home from Lowe’s any faster than I otherwise would have.
- ricardobeat 3y agoNot a fan of this vehicle at all, but this article is pretty vapid clickbait, besides the unexplained system issue. No car should be washed in direct sunlight, you'll get spots from drying soap, water etc. And 'car wash mode' is totally normal and standard, you don't want charge ports to open, the wiper to start, or accidentally put it into gear. I drove a Polestar 2 for a while and was extremely scared of going into a car wash, there are like 17 steps you need to take (including a warning that "the touch-sensitive doors might lock and unlock intermittently during the wash cycle").
- TheAlchemist 3y agoIs this normal for an electric car ? It sounds kind of crazy to be scary to go into a car wash.
- martin_a 3y agoNo issues with my Hyundai Kona Electric. Although it does not have features like hidden, touch-sensitive door knobs and whatnot. It washes (and gets dirty) just like any car.
- amenhotep 3y agoReword that, imo: although it has features like not having hidden, touch-sensitive door handles :)
- isoprophlex 3y agoThe EV car wash experience I'm having: You drive it into the car wash, roll up the windows, put it in neutral. Don't open the doors while it is being washed. You're done.
- bamboozled 3y agoAnecdotal counterpoint, I've owned probably 15 cars in my life. Anything from performance to trucks. I've washed them in the sun, I've washed then in car washes, I've driven them through flood waters. I've actually never had a car that I own, break down on me in my life. There seems to be a lot of stories like this one regarding cyber trucks. I don't remember reading anything like this about Toyota trucks.
- jc_811 3y agoI will never understand why Elon decided to go all in on the Cybertruck. Did anyone, at any point, think this was a good idea besides himself?
- garbagewoman 3y agoIt was easier to make than a new roadster and gets just as much press
- Hamuko 3y agoIsn't the Roadster hard to make only because Elon keeps saying dumb things about it, like that it'll come with rocket boosters that maybe even allow it to fly[1]? [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289
- bamboozled 3y agoHad to look for the April 1 date stamp there.
- bamboozled 3y agoI think cars are the exception to the rule: "there's no such thing as bad press".
- AdamN 3y agoTrucks are very high margin and he has a chance to take over a top selling segment in the US. If the gen2 version hits it's stride it could be a multi-billion dollar win that pays out over decades. I won't buy it for multiple reasons though: 1/ it's a truck, 2/ Elon Musk, 3/ build quality, 4/ UX.
- Ekaros 3y agoDid they actually go all in? Or did they just execute something shoddily thrown together? Not that it wasn't waste of time and resources...
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- shaneos 3y agoWhile the car definitely broke down, the suggestion that it was caused by the car wash is pretty disingenuous. Many cars have a "Car wash mode", which ensure that the automatic wipers do not turn on and that the windows stay up. It can also allow the car to be moved slowly through an automated machine I think. Either the author didn't know this, and should try driving a car built in the past 5 years, or they did know and were just chasing clicks. Either way, lazy journalism.
- Tomte 3y agoAnd as far as I understand car wash mode was used, but Cybertruck still died.
- op00to 3y agoNone of the “car wash mode” actions you mention would leave a car totally immobile.
- shaneos 3y agoPrecisely, I agree. There is nothing to suggest that it was the car wash that bricked the car. It likely would have failed without the car wash. It's pure speculation on the writers part, but it's a nice salacious headline that strikes me as pure laziness
- aitchnyu 3y ago> Car Wash Mode closes all windows, locks the charge port, and disables windshield wipers, Sentry Mode, and walk-away door locking. What damage would leave it frozen?
- 4ndrewl 3y ago"After filing a ticket with Tesla to get the truck rebooted". Filing a support ticket to reboot your own car. What a time to be alive.
- rhymeswithjazz 3y agoAppropriate dystopia for a dystopian vehicle.
- daghamm 3y ago"Have you tried turning it off and on again?" Sounds like pretty normal support response to me
- otikik 3y ago“Car wash mode” Do others have that? Sounds like a very bad design
- passwordoops 3y agoIf you need to enable "car wash mode" then whatever you own is not a car/truck
- bamboozled 3y agoIt sounds concerning to me too, maybe it would be ok if "car wash mode" is automatically activated while doing 100 on the free way without affecting driving performance or safety, which doesn't sound very possible.
- aaron695 3y ago[dead]
- rsynnott 3y ago> The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight, and there is a section expressly mentioning that the truck has to be switched into “Car Wash Mode” before washing to avoid damage to parts of the vehicle. "You're holding it wrong", car edition.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 3y agoWhy do people buy^1 these things. Truly, "buy" is not the correct term. Maybe something like "license" or "support Musk's folly". It's seems like a donation to a WIP, like some overblown Kickstarter project.
- kameit00 3y agoDidn‘t Space Karen announce a „Boat Kit“, that turns the truck into an actual boat? What could go wrong *lol
- ThinkBeat 3y agoI have had quite a few different cars, all of which I have used automatic car wash "tunnels" regularly during all seasons of the year. I have never experienced any problems from it. Not long ago I read about a Tesla driver S driver who had a fight with Tesla over the paint job. It was deteriorating in a hurry. Tesla said it was due to the owner not following proper car wash procedure. With specific soap at specific temperature and so on. The driver protested and said they had done everything by the book. I dont find it reasonable to have so many limiting rules to washing a car . Then again perhaps this is a common problem with luxury cars. I have never had one of those, except my first car which was a really old Cadillac. The paint was still good even after all those years, and I put it through the aut car wash many times.
- bathtub365 3y agoTesla’s are not really luxury cars. They charge luxury car prices but you seem to get the ride quality, interior quality, build quality, and customer service level of a cheap American domestic car. Luxury German cars of various makes have their own reliability issues and can be expensive to maintain but the quality of car overall is still in another league.
- tim333 3y agoIt depends a bit how fussy you are about micro scratches on the paintwork. All car washing causes some scratching due to grit on the car and the amount varies depending on how you do it. It's why new cars look shinier than older ones. Most cars use a similar tech with a clear coat over the paint. For a bit of money you can have it polished smooth again.