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You could solve this by simply sending out a memo not to respond to such offers or risk termination.
by LASR 2y ago
You could solve this by simply sending out a memo not to respond to such offers or risk termination.
- gabeio 2y agoHow is knowingly doing sim swapping not already a dick move? Honestly what the OP suggested is simply a sting operation. Your reaction to it is ... more scary.
- tw04 2y agoIt shouldn’t just be termination, it should be jail time. It’s no better than selling a gun to a person you know intends to use it to commit a crime.
- UberFly 2y agoT-Mobile should make a few loud examples out of those proven to be doing this. Deterrent is the best medicine. Of course they don't want this kind of attention so they'll do as little as possible.
- akerl_ 2y agoJust so we’re clear: getting shot is quite a bit worse than having your phone number stolen.
- fortran77 2y agoMany people--rich or poor--would rather get shot and survive than lose all their wealth.
- datavirtue 2y agoWe talking a grazing, or a colostomy bag and a wheel chair?
- fortran77 2y agoI wouldn't, but I think a lot of people would.
- aydyn 2y agoA person getting a gun is not the same as someone getting shot.
- tommit 2y agoWell yeah, a person getting their SIM swapped is not the same as someone getting scammed. Until it is.
- aydyn 2y agoGuns have legitimate uses sim swapping does not.
- akerl_ 2y agoSure... except the thread you're in started with: > It’s no better than selling a gun to a person you know intends to use it to commit a crime. Though I guess you could be making the case that crime is a legitimate use of guns?
- aydyn 2y agoI'm not sure what your point is as I'm not the one who shifted the conversation. To be clear, my original post only pointed out that what you said is a non sequitur: > It’s no better than selling a gun to a person you know intends to use it to commit a crime. > > Just so we’re clear: getting shot is quite a bit worse than having your phone number stolen.
- genocidicbunny 2y agoWell that could really depend. If your phone number being stolen causes your savings to get drained for long enough that you run into problems making important payments like rent, taxes, car payments; That can pretty quickly spiral into even worse situations. In a world/country where many people have too few savings to go even a month without being paid, losing even that can get extremely dangerous. Not to mention the stress of such a situation alone will probably take quite a bit of your life expectancy off.
- TheNewsIsHere 2y agoWhile I absolutely understand the point you're making.... At least in the United States, we also live in a society where the financial ramifications of getting shot could lead to equally bad financial outcomes (whether directly or indirectly).
- dexterdog 2y agoIt's actually significantly better.
- jjice 2y agoIs it? It'd be a good way to catch people doing something that's seriously damaging to others for personal gain. I don't think I have much sympathy if you lose your job for doing something this damaging and probably illegal.
- WolfeReader 2y agoA telling reply. SIM swapping? No comment. Trying to catch SIM swappers? Suddenly you have feelings about it!
- maximinus_thrax 2y agoRed teams do this sort of things all the time. How about you don't accept bribes? Arguably that's a bigger dick move.
- jxramos 2y agoaudit log tied to the one who authorizes the swap along with guaranteed criminal penalties would be a stronger disincentive I believe.
- lrvick 2y agoOr, crazy idea, we do not give minimum wage paid retail sales reps the ability to control access to the online accounts of hundreds of millions of people.
- adventured 2y agoReps for T-Mobile are not making minimum wage. Almost nobody in the US earns minimum wage at this point, it's less than 1/2 of 1% of labor. You can make $15/hr as an entry-level cashier - your first job, zero job history - at CVS and Walgreens, with tolerable health/dental/eye insurance. And if you're not entirely braindead you can trivially become a pharmacy intern (then tech) and start at $18-$20, with benefits. They'll pay for your licensing. You can make $18-$22 to start as a telemetry or video tech, with zero experience. Hospitals are filled with people sitting in rooms watching video monitors making sure patients don't fall over or hurt themselves, it pays 3x the minimum wage and requires zero experience. If you're making $7.50 /hr at this point, you're either living somewhere very barren (almost zero economic opportunities), or it's your own fault.
- lrvick 2y agoI think you may have missed the point. Even so, retail sales jobs are often heavily commission adjusted which makes this not so cut and dry. Sell sell sell, or you are well below the poverty line and quickly replaced by someone more willing to cut corners on the activities that are not profitable like carefully checking ID.
- dmoy 2y ago> Almost nobody in the US earns minimum wage at this point, it's less than 1/2 of 1% of labor. Almost nobody makes federal minimum wage. It's gotta be at 2%+ making state minimum wage though. CA for example has a minimum wage somewhere north of $15, and like 10% of the population makes minimum wage or less. That right there pulls the number for the whole country up to at least 1% making minimum wage, because CA is >10% of the population. (Extreme example, since CA also has the highest real poverty rate in the US (SPM, not the hilariously undercounting OPM)).
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- ClassyJacket 2y agoWow, genius, just tell people not to break laws, why didn't they think of that...