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Google just released its AI chip rival to Nvidia

23 points by geox 3y ago

Dylan16807 3y ago
Oh, by "released its AI chip" they mean Google released the new version of the TPU.
- epistasis 3y ago
  What else could it mean? I'm not sure I understand the point of your comment.
  - lupire 3y ago
    It's confusing because it's the next release in a series. Google isn't newly entering a market. Google is updating its entry in whatver "rivalry" already exists for "AI"/tensor workloads.
  - ilaksh 3y ago
    They aren't selling the new v5 TPUs are they? Just renting them in their cloud. I think.
- singularity2001 3y ago
  by "released" they mean not made for mass consumption.
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yieldcrv 3y ago
I can’t wait till we get a modern semiconductor supply chain in the US This will be amazing, for us at least I wonder if we’ll give passports to TSMC execs before the thing happens
- epistasis 3y ago
  TSMC's plans are proceeding ahead of schedule, should be operation by the end of the year: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/tsmc-updates-arizona-fab-production-timeline-signs-semiconductor-talent-agreement-with-kyushu-university/ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/tsmc-updates-ariz... So we should hopefully see soon! It's kind of funny to me how little the media is reporting on both the extremely major legislation that happened over the past 4 years, as well as news like this. It's almost like they'd prefer to do silly culture war stuff rather than report on substantive matters with billions of dollars of subsidy and substantial progress for the US.
  - yieldcrv 3y ago
    nice, there is an overlap with culture war matters here too > TSMC to address talent shortages through new partnership with Japanese university this is how DEI and “pipeline problems” should be done. Why does it take a foreign company and foreign university to figure that out better than US companies and beyond the imagination of frustrated residents
    - epistasis 3y ago
      For a lot of traditional industry, there's immense rot at the executive level. Compare Hyundai and Kia's approach to EVs to the US car majors, and you'll see similar disparities in capability, vision, and technical ability. The US majors realized they were losing at EVs, and ran a major PR push in the US media that it's the fault of EV technology, as a way to quell investor pullback on their failure to execute well. That sort of strategy will work for a bit, but eventually reality will come back to bite the US car majors. But by then, perhaps they will get Congress to bail them out from foreign competition yet again.
      - wakawaka28 3y ago
        EV technology is fundamentally inferior though. People don't want EV's and their slow charging, limited range, high expense, and fire hazards. Even if it did work we don't have nearly enough electricity production to power a majority of people adopting EVs. As for comparing US industry to others, it would be unfair to solely blame executives. No country can be on top in every industry, much less one that outsources too much stuff.

23 points by geox 3y ago

Dylan16807 3y ago

Oh, by "released its AI chip" they mean Google released the new version of the TPU.

epistasis 3y ago
What else could it mean? I'm not sure I understand the point of your comment.
- lupire 3y ago
  It's confusing because it's the next release in a series. Google isn't newly entering a market. Google is updating its entry in whatver "rivalry" already exists for "AI"/tensor workloads.
- ilaksh 3y ago
  They aren't selling the new v5 TPUs are they? Just renting them in their cloud. I think.
singularity2001 3y ago
by "released" they mean not made for mass consumption.

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yieldcrv 3y ago

I can’t wait till we get a modern semiconductor supply chain in the US This will be amazing, for us at least I wonder if we’ll give passports to TSMC execs before the thing happens

epistasis 3y ago
TSMC's plans are proceeding ahead of schedule, should be operation by the end of the year: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/tsmc-updates-arizona-fab-production-timeline-signs-semiconductor-talent-agreement-with-kyushu-university/ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/tsmc-updates-ariz... So we should hopefully see soon! It's kind of funny to me how little the media is reporting on both the extremely major legislation that happened over the past 4 years, as well as news like this. It's almost like they'd prefer to do silly culture war stuff rather than report on substantive matters with billions of dollars of subsidy and substantial progress for the US.
- yieldcrv 3y ago
  nice, there is an overlap with culture war matters here too > TSMC to address talent shortages through new partnership with Japanese university this is how DEI and “pipeline problems” should be done. Why does it take a foreign company and foreign university to figure that out better than US companies and beyond the imagination of frustrated residents
  - epistasis 3y ago
    For a lot of traditional industry, there's immense rot at the executive level. Compare Hyundai and Kia's approach to EVs to the US car majors, and you'll see similar disparities in capability, vision, and technical ability. The US majors realized they were losing at EVs, and ran a major PR push in the US media that it's the fault of EV technology, as a way to quell investor pullback on their failure to execute well. That sort of strategy will work for a bit, but eventually reality will come back to bite the US car majors. But by then, perhaps they will get Congress to bail them out from foreign competition yet again.
    - wakawaka28 3y ago
      EV technology is fundamentally inferior though. People don't want EV's and their slow charging, limited range, high expense, and fire hazards. Even if it did work we don't have nearly enough electricity production to power a majority of people adopting EVs. As for comparing US industry to others, it would be unfair to solely blame executives. No country can be on top in every industry, much less one that outsources too much stuff.