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Fears of environmental disaster rise as ship sinks after Houthi attack
- wslh 3y agohttps://archive.is/u03Za https://archive.is/u03Za
- londons_explore 3y agoDo we know the impacts of large amounts ammonium phosphate in the oceans? Algal blooms?
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- gazpacho 3y agoSurely this should have been a risk accounted for and the shipment should have been diverted or cancelled? It’s not like the payload was unknown or the possibility of an attack was new? I really don’t understand why we keep shipping through there. Yes, it will cause 2% (the number I found) inflation. We (US) have had worse. Many places survive (albeit with damage) 100% YoY inflation. Let’s just stop escalating conflicts for money, people’s lives and global peace are worth more than that.
- gruez 3y agoThe US might only feel 2% inflation, but that doesn't mean other countries (ie. developing ones) are going to get off as easily. Food spending makes up more of their budget there, so the impact will be much higher, not to mention they're poorer to start with and are already feeling the effects from the inflation caused by the pandemic/Ukraine war .
- pfannkuchen 3y agoInflation is a misleading term here IMO. It would cause a shortage in shipping capacity, which would produce a price increase. There is no reason to believe that this would be persistent enough to consider it a change in the value of the currency itself (since the alternative routes may be improved etc). If this is inflation, then everything is inflation.
- nradov 3y agoWhy are you trying to make this about the US? We have very little trade through that route. Other countries that do rely on that route obviously can't give in to terrorists regardless of environmental risks.
- enterprise_cog 3y agoAnsar Allah is targeting the US, Israel, and their allies who support Israel. China can sail the route just fine, for example.
- nradov 3y agoDon't be naive. Regardless of the propaganda they might try to push, the Houthis are engaged in indiscriminate terrorism as Iranian proxies and have attacked vessels owned and operated by multiple nations regardless of links to Israel. They hit the Chinese / Panamanian tanker MV Huang Pu. https://news.usni.org/2024/03/24/chinese-tanker-hit-with-houthi-missile-in-the-red-sea https://news.usni.org/2024/03/24/chinese-tanker-hit-with-hou...
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- tptacek 3y agoUnless they can time travel, the bigger problem for the Houthi solidarity claims is that these attacks began before the invasion of Gaza.
- tptacek 3y agoAnsar Allah has targeted random ships, including Russian tankers, and, most notably, was conducting these attacks before the October 7th attacks; their advocacy for Israel is a retcon. It's worth pointing out that if Ansar Allah succeeded in liberating Palestine, their next action would be to burn down all the mosques --- Palestinians are overwhelmingly Sunni (and Hamas is an explicitly Sunni organization), and Ansar Allah is at war with Sunnis in Yemen, where it has been destroying mosques for the last year.
- derelicta 3y agoSuddenly the West cares about environmental disasters. Very convenient.
- Clubber 3y ago"West cares about environmental disasters" I don't think there has been a week in the last 20 years where there hasn't been an environment piece in the news. I would argue the West cares very deeply about the environment, certainly more so than the East, Far East and Middle East. Or looking at it another way, "suddenly The West cares about the Houthis," is more accurate. This is probably a "sell the upcoming military action with Houthi's to the public" piece. They're using the environment angle because they know it will stick better than reporting about it jamming up the supply chain.
- tptacek 3y agoDisruption of international shipping is literally the oldest cassus belli in the entire history of international law, so the idea that anybody is grasping at straws to respond to Ansar Allah is a very weak argument.