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YouTube was one of the jewels of the internet. Now that Google is furiously yanking it's teats, YouTube has become just another "fuck you, pay me" ad infested h

YouTube was one of the jewels of the internet. Now that Google is furiously yanking it's teats, YouTube has become just another "fuck you, pay me" ad infested hellscape. Video distribution is ripe for disruption.

cjk2 3y ago
Yes (this sentence was sponsored by NordVPN), that.
Valodim 3y ago
I'm not sure what you mean by "disruption" here. Offering video content at scale costs a lot of money, it's gotta come from somewhere. And the options are users directly (YouTube Premium), users indirectly (ads), product investment by a large company (old YouTube), or financial investment by VC. Pick your poison?
- throwaway4good 3y ago
  TikTok could do it.
  - blackoil 3y ago
    By showing ads.
- xkcd-sucks 3y ago
  Nevertheless there are a ton of very high quality, and seemingly successful, streamed-prerecorded pirate video sites these past few years, and One might assume their users be more adblocky than google's users. Oh and also porn sites I guess, and what's the advertising worth there vs on youtube
  - Valodim 3y ago
    Content rights are a big part of the cost, and criminal enterprises won't attract too many original content creators I'd wager.
  - Wowfunhappy 3y ago
    The difference is that people upload 500 hours of video[1] to Youtube every minute. I honestly can't even fathom how much data that is. 1: https://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-uploaded-to-youtube-every-minute/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-up...
    - xg15 3y ago
      Ok, and why should I as a user care about this? No one asked youtube to become a monopoly and I don't exactly have much compassion for the engineering woes that come with this. I'd be perfectly fine with an upload cap if that reduces the hosting cost in any way. But of course that would be against the "groth at any cost" mantra.
      - Wowfunhappy 3y ago
        You don't have to "care", but I think this is a huge reason (in addition to the network effect) that people continue to use Youtube. Where else can you store an unlimited amount of video for free, for approximately forever?
  - copperx 3y ago
    Are those pirate video sites P2P? Or how do they work?
- jukolp 3y ago
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- 2devnull 3y ago
  Who funds public libraries? That’s who I will get video from when google dies. They have already solved the last mile problem.
- JaimeThompson 3y ago
  It would be nice if I didn't have to subsidize Youtube Music to get no ads.
- master-lincoln 3y ago
  Peertube uses Peer to Peer connections between users to share bandwidth and use less managed infrastructure. But it's not centralized, so capitalists are not happy with it
IshKebab 3y ago
It's pretty great still if you pay for YouTube Premium (which IMO is a good deal given you get YouTube Music too). The sponsor ads are easy to skip too. Half the videos even mark the ad sections in the timeline or even have an on screen timer to make it easier.
- pixxel 3y ago
  Paying to be surveilled isn’t pretty great.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    Paying people so they can continue to keep doing what they're doing without having to watch ads is, though.
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    Good job I'm not paying for that!
- key_peace_pulse 3y ago
  I started using an adskipper Chrome extension called Clear Skies. I use Firefox and ublock Origin for every other website but I use Chrome/ Clear Skies just for youtube because those dogs are blocking me with Firefox/ublock and even with ublock disabled they are nerfing Firefox by throttling it to make the experience unbearably laggy.
  - whywhywhywhy 3y ago
    It’s not just the ads now, they slip gross out and shock content into search results because people can’t help but click it. Really wish Neal Mohamed would realize when I’m searching for recipes to cook for dinner I do not wish to see: black head videos, hair lice infestation, CCTV of a Chinese child dying in a faulty elevator, ear cleaning videos in my search results. All of which Neal Mohans algorithm has served me when searching for recipes and I’ve never clicked a single one. I know its a purpose build in shock video cos it always shows in an extra box that includes 1 video I have watched before, 1 gross out video, 1 mainstream video all unrelated to the search
LorenDB 3y ago
Elon Musk is trying for that disruption with Twitter, but I'd argue that it hasn't been a wild success like he would have hoped it to.
- pptr 3y ago
  X's video player is super annoying to use. I often manage to close the running video and I have to search for it again to resume it. They need to build a robust video player ux if they want to compete.
- sitzkrieg 3y ago
  the only thing he disrupted was the twitter experience

cjk2 3y ago

Yes (this sentence was sponsored by NordVPN), that.

Valodim 3y ago

I'm not sure what you mean by "disruption" here. Offering video content at scale costs a lot of money, it's gotta come from somewhere. And the options are users directly (YouTube Premium), users indirectly (ads), product investment by a large company (old YouTube), or financial investment by VC. Pick your poison?

throwaway4good 3y ago
TikTok could do it.
- blackoil 3y ago
  By showing ads.
xkcd-sucks 3y ago
Nevertheless there are a ton of very high quality, and seemingly successful, streamed-prerecorded pirate video sites these past few years, and One might assume their users be more adblocky than google's users. Oh and also porn sites I guess, and what's the advertising worth there vs on youtube
- Valodim 3y ago
  Content rights are a big part of the cost, and criminal enterprises won't attract too many original content creators I'd wager.
- Wowfunhappy 3y ago
  The difference is that people upload 500 hours of video[1] to Youtube every minute. I honestly can't even fathom how much data that is. 1: https://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-uploaded-to-youtube-every-minute/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-up...
  - xg15 3y ago
    Ok, and why should I as a user care about this? No one asked youtube to become a monopoly and I don't exactly have much compassion for the engineering woes that come with this. I'd be perfectly fine with an upload cap if that reduces the hosting cost in any way. But of course that would be against the "groth at any cost" mantra.
    - Wowfunhappy 3y ago
      You don't have to "care", but I think this is a huge reason (in addition to the network effect) that people continue to use Youtube. Where else can you store an unlimited amount of video for free, for approximately forever?
- copperx 3y ago
  Are those pirate video sites P2P? Or how do they work?
jukolp 3y ago
[dead]
2devnull 3y ago
Who funds public libraries? That’s who I will get video from when google dies. They have already solved the last mile problem.
JaimeThompson 3y ago
It would be nice if I didn't have to subsidize Youtube Music to get no ads.
master-lincoln 3y ago
Peertube uses Peer to Peer connections between users to share bandwidth and use less managed infrastructure. But it's not centralized, so capitalists are not happy with it

IshKebab 3y ago

It's pretty great still if you pay for YouTube Premium (which IMO is a good deal given you get YouTube Music too). The sponsor ads are easy to skip too. Half the videos even mark the ad sections in the timeline or even have an on screen timer to make it easier.

pixxel 3y ago
Paying to be surveilled isn’t pretty great.
- fragmede 3y ago
  Paying people so they can continue to keep doing what they're doing without having to watch ads is, though.
- IshKebab 3y ago
  Good job I'm not paying for that!
key_peace_pulse 3y ago
I started using an adskipper Chrome extension called Clear Skies. I use Firefox and ublock Origin for every other website but I use Chrome/ Clear Skies just for youtube because those dogs are blocking me with Firefox/ublock and even with ublock disabled they are nerfing Firefox by throttling it to make the experience unbearably laggy.
- whywhywhywhy 3y ago
  It’s not just the ads now, they slip gross out and shock content into search results because people can’t help but click it. Really wish Neal Mohamed would realize when I’m searching for recipes to cook for dinner I do not wish to see: black head videos, hair lice infestation, CCTV of a Chinese child dying in a faulty elevator, ear cleaning videos in my search results. All of which Neal Mohans algorithm has served me when searching for recipes and I’ve never clicked a single one. I know its a purpose build in shock video cos it always shows in an extra box that includes 1 video I have watched before, 1 gross out video, 1 mainstream video all unrelated to the search

LorenDB 3y ago

Elon Musk is trying for that disruption with Twitter, but I'd argue that it hasn't been a wild success like he would have hoped it to.

pptr 3y ago
X's video player is super annoying to use. I often manage to close the running video and I have to search for it again to resume it. They need to build a robust video player ux if they want to compete.
sitzkrieg 3y ago
the only thing he disrupted was the twitter experience