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Launch HN: Okapi (YC W24) – A new, flexible CRM with good UX
Hi HN!
We’re Ulysse and Ned from Okapi. We’re making a modern CRM. It's kind of like if Airtable/Notion built Salesforce today. https://okapicrm.com https://okapicrm.com
When I was fresh out of college, working for startups, Salesforce was this big mystery to me. It's the perpetual second screen for everyone in sales. They were building this gigantic obelisk downtown. What was this thing? And why did every salesperson I knew seem to live in it all day, and yet hate it so much?
Turns out Salesforce is basically PhpMyAdmin for salespeople. It's just basically two things:
1. A really generic database, and a UI for CRUDing your data.
2. An API and ecosystem of integrations.
In other words, it's the back-office CRUD app to end all back-office CRUD apps. People call the result a "CRM" (Customer Relationship Management).
Salesforce is slow and clunky. And that doesn’t matter because people don’t buy Salesforce to be delighted. They buy Salesforce to avoid being screwed over.
SObjects are how Salesforce does that. It’s the best idea Salesforce ever had: make everything in your product be built upon a generic data layer that your users can configure. Just like how you can add a new sheet or column in a spreadsheet, in Salesforce you can add new objects and fields. You can CRUD, report on, and do automations on top of custom data in exactly the same way you do it for built-in data.
The graveyard of wannabe Salesforces is littered with people who forgot about this key insight.
We think the way you win in CRM in 2024 is by keeping the flexibility of SObjects, and then tacking on modern UX. That first part takes engineering discipline, but the second part is much easier than Salesforce had it 25 years ago. Just about every part of a modern SaaS product has dozens of vendors that do most of the work for you.
We're really excited to get feedback from HN on what we have. Here’s a video demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uRBf_9CRyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uRBf_9CRyM - and you can try it yourself:
https://app.okapicrm.com https://app.okapicrm.com
Email: hn.login.user@okapicrm.com
Password: sk9ueEAfhXP9j4cuxLCVmw7.
You can test out our email integration, send an email to: hn.demo@okapicrm.com
And see that email (up to ~10min latency): https://app.okapicrm.com/objects/emails/records https://app.okapicrm.com/objects/emails/records
We’re very eager for your honest feedback. What do you think we're missing? One thing we can’t decide if it’s a need-to-have is Apex -- is having in-transaction custom scripting really necessary for a CRM? Or is that just something they tacked on as Salesforce became more of an app platform and less of a focused CRM product?
- highdeserthackr 3y agoHow would you compare your vision to EspoCrm? It has nice UX, custom fields, formulas, can be self-hosted, is very low cost, api access, with add-ons for workflows, reports.
- sidcool 3y agoCongrats. It's good to see new entrants in the entrenched CRM market.
- Lukas1994 3y agoGreat stuff! I celebrate everyone who gets the world off SFDC. We recently started using https://attio.com/ https://attio.com/ — how do you guys compare?
- WhatIsAModel 3y agoTheir websites look so similar....
- spaceman_2020 3y agoBlame it on Shadcn/ui Everyone is using it and they all look the same
- ucarion 3y agoAttio is great. I think it's among the best new entrants. So far, the main difference is that Okapi can be even simpler than Attio if you'd like it to be. There are no mandatory built-in objects, and no enrichments/automations/etc that you can't disable. You can KISS your sales process as much as you like. To that end, we've also been eschewing self-service onboarding. We just set up customer's CRMs and import their data for them, shooting for the simplest setup they can get away with. The software is generic, and we make it concrete for customers by hand.