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With all the data that’s being put up for sale by Reddit to AI companies, why do they still focus on ads? They could focus on a better user experience (unlike t

by AnonC 3y ago

With all the data that’s being put up for sale by Reddit to AI companies, why do they still focus on ads? They could focus on a better user experience (unlike the @*^% move last year to cut off almost all third party apps and strangle the rest to death slowly). The value of gathering more content from users in order to freely sell it to companies should be a lot higher than tweaking ad placement and styling. Seems like u/spez (Reddit’s CEO) ran out of decent and ok ideas a long time ago and has been acting out of spite time and again.

brevitea 3y ago
Perhaps you are seriously underestimating the actual dollars companies spend on advertising.
SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
I’m a firm believer that the MBAifcation of the world is one of the great evils of our time. That extracting every last option, selling everything possible, exploiting your environment, running as lean as possible with no concern for difficult times… is a lot of what is going wrong. So what I re-pose to you isn’t “Why isn’t Reddit selling just data or just ads” it’s “Why would their executives ever consider leaving money on the table?”
- PM_me_your_math 3y ago
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- marcosdumay 3y ago
  It's not only MBAification. The world's economy has suffered a global, organized, and incredibly large dumping attack against a huge set of industries and social organizations. The good news is that it seems to have stopped.
- dinkumthinkum 3y ago
  With competition users, there can be new sites and users can show these companies with their clicks. I get what you’re saying but consumers are apparently ok with it to an extent. It’s not an evil like labor camps and bread lines. :)
  - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
    I agree. Breadlines are bad. But this isn’t a capitalism vs communism/socialism thing. I’m not saying MBAs are the alternative to breadlines. I’m saying that given the rate we are going they are another cause. As far as consumers being OK with things. That is another major cause of our problems, selectable-outrage which I think is from a corrupt media. And a corrupt media… also run by MBAs trying to extract every possible resource, run as lean as possible with resources a media org has like reputation and goodwill, eliminating the costly things like difficult research-journalism in favor of Clickbait BS. I think there’s about seven things wrong with our time. MBA-ification is only one. The next two would be a corrupt media and a complexity-crisis that no one sees coming.
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    >but consumers are apparently ok with it to an extent to be blunt, consumers are lazy and that is how the network effect goes from "household name" to "too big to fail". Like a frog boiling, by the time the user eventually leaves 10 more are jumping in.
add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
> With all the data that’s being put up for sale by Reddit to AI companies, why do they still focus on ads? Why would they leave money on the table after the bulk of their users proved to be docile in the face of so much recent enshittification?

by AnonC 3y ago

brevitea 3y ago

Perhaps you are seriously underestimating the actual dollars companies spend on advertising.

SV_BubbleTime 3y ago

I’m a firm believer that the MBAifcation of the world is one of the great evils of our time. That extracting every last option, selling everything possible, exploiting your environment, running as lean as possible with no concern for difficult times… is a lot of what is going wrong. So what I re-pose to you isn’t “Why isn’t Reddit selling just data or just ads” it’s “Why would their executives ever consider leaving money on the table?”

PM_me_your_math 3y ago
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marcosdumay 3y ago
It's not only MBAification. The world's economy has suffered a global, organized, and incredibly large dumping attack against a huge set of industries and social organizations. The good news is that it seems to have stopped.
dinkumthinkum 3y ago
With competition users, there can be new sites and users can show these companies with their clicks. I get what you’re saying but consumers are apparently ok with it to an extent. It’s not an evil like labor camps and bread lines. :)
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
  I agree. Breadlines are bad. But this isn’t a capitalism vs communism/socialism thing. I’m not saying MBAs are the alternative to breadlines. I’m saying that given the rate we are going they are another cause. As far as consumers being OK with things. That is another major cause of our problems, selectable-outrage which I think is from a corrupt media. And a corrupt media… also run by MBAs trying to extract every possible resource, run as lean as possible with resources a media org has like reputation and goodwill, eliminating the costly things like difficult research-journalism in favor of Clickbait BS. I think there’s about seven things wrong with our time. MBA-ification is only one. The next two would be a corrupt media and a complexity-crisis that no one sees coming.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >but consumers are apparently ok with it to an extent to be blunt, consumers are lazy and that is how the network effect goes from "household name" to "too big to fail". Like a frog boiling, by the time the user eventually leaves 10 more are jumping in.

add-sub-mul-div 3y ago

> With all the data that’s being put up for sale by Reddit to AI companies, why do they still focus on ads? Why would they leave money on the table after the bulk of their users proved to be docile in the face of so much recent enshittification?