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I did say "appears," but this is some Epstein levels of "coincidence." I'm not really a conspiracy-theory type, but I mean c'mon. Does anyone believe that Epste

I did say "appears," but this is some Epstein levels of "coincidence." I'm not really a conspiracy-theory type, but I mean c'mon. Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Makes me think of this little stand-up comedy snippet. https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/14rcr7n/conspiracy_theories/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/14rcr7n/cons... "I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain't lying about ANYTHING?"

blackhawkC17 3y ago
> Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Yes, I believe that Epstein was a coward who took the easy way out rather than face repercussions. If it was a grand conspiracy, why is Ghislaine Maxwell (Epstein’s partner-in-crime) still alive in prison?
- chii 3y ago
  > Ghislaine may be she just knew less incriminating shit. Could also be that one death as an example, to keep her in line from saying anything too incriminating (against somebody who's capable of orchestrating a prison "suicide").
- alexey-salmin 3y ago
  Curios that she didn't try to reduce her sentence by incriminating others. Furthermore she outright refused to testify at all during the proceedings.
optimalsolver 3y ago
>Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Yes. People of high status frequently take their lives when they realize everything's gone down the drain.
- hughesjj 3y ago
  On suicide watch, with both guards asleep and the cameras out?
  - Bluescreenbuddy 3y ago
    Maybe that was the murder. A guy who wants to kill himself and you tell the guard to look the other way and let him do it.
gruez 3y ago
>"I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain't lying about ANYTHING?" "government lying about something" =/= "my pet conspiracy theory is true" The government was responsible for the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, but that doesn't mean the covid vaccines contains 5g nanobots or whatever.
- hughesjj 3y ago
  I hope that, at a minimum, this gets the government to realize/reaffirm how destructive it is to them when they do shit like this
georgespencer 3y ago
If you believe Epstein was murdered you are in a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of very gullible or very simple minded people. Upon a cursory review of both the facts of the matter and the very best arguments conspiracists can copy and paste, it is self-evident that he killed himself.
- ummonk 3y ago
  And the cameras just happened to be out of order when he chose to kill himself of course.
  - ImHereToVote 3y ago
    It's easy when your world view hinges on the fact that responsible adults are running the world.
    - Supermancho 3y ago
      This would necessarily apply to the investigation, as well.
      - georgespencer 3y ago
        And would make the two guards who admitted falsifying reports… the worst patsies in history? And presumably the FBI and DOJ are in on it too? And the camera footage showing nobody entered his block is fake too? It's so achingly dumb. HN has a really awful conspiratorial leaning these days, it's completely baffling to me.
        Supermancho 3y ago
        > And would make the two guards who admitted falsifying reports… the worst patsies in history? Maybe in 5 or 10 years, they get paid off. History teaches that truth isn't available immediately or at the time. The world is a rough place and I can wait to be convinced. As patsies, they are possibly the best, given the outcome today. > And presumably the FBI and DOJ are in on it too? Now you're just reaching. > It's so achingly dumb. Ah, the sideways name calling. Good luck with that.
publius_0xf3 3y ago
>Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Yes, I do. Like you, I found the circumstances of Epstein's death incredibly suspicious and thought it was a murder. But the more information that has come out, the more it looks like it was a typical prison suicide. [The latest AP article](https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-jail-suicide-prison-death-8d194a756f2b429067f009a0c70f96c0 https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-jail-suicide-pris...) is pretty good. >Two weeks before ending his life, Jeffrey Epstein sat in the corner of his Manhattan jail cell with his hands over his ears, desperate to muffle the sound of a toilet that wouldn’t stop running.

blackhawkC17 3y ago

> Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Yes, I believe that Epstein was a coward who took the easy way out rather than face repercussions. If it was a grand conspiracy, why is Ghislaine Maxwell (Epstein’s partner-in-crime) still alive in prison?

chii 3y ago
> Ghislaine may be she just knew less incriminating shit. Could also be that one death as an example, to keep her in line from saying anything too incriminating (against somebody who's capable of orchestrating a prison "suicide").
alexey-salmin 3y ago
Curios that she didn't try to reduce her sentence by incriminating others. Furthermore she outright refused to testify at all during the proceedings.

optimalsolver 3y ago

>Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Yes. People of high status frequently take their lives when they realize everything's gone down the drain.

hughesjj 3y ago
On suicide watch, with both guards asleep and the cameras out?
- Bluescreenbuddy 3y ago
  Maybe that was the murder. A guy who wants to kill himself and you tell the guard to look the other way and let him do it.

gruez 3y ago

>"I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain't lying about ANYTHING?" "government lying about something" =/= "my pet conspiracy theory is true" The government was responsible for the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, but that doesn't mean the covid vaccines contains 5g nanobots or whatever.

hughesjj 3y ago
I hope that, at a minimum, this gets the government to realize/reaffirm how destructive it is to them when they do shit like this

georgespencer 3y ago

If you believe Epstein was murdered you are in a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of very gullible or very simple minded people. Upon a cursory review of both the facts of the matter and the very best arguments conspiracists can copy and paste, it is self-evident that he killed himself.

ummonk 3y ago
And the cameras just happened to be out of order when he chose to kill himself of course.
- ImHereToVote 3y ago
  It's easy when your world view hinges on the fact that responsible adults are running the world.
  - Supermancho 3y ago
    This would necessarily apply to the investigation, as well.
    - georgespencer 3y ago
      And would make the two guards who admitted falsifying reports… the worst patsies in history? And presumably the FBI and DOJ are in on it too? And the camera footage showing nobody entered his block is fake too? It's so achingly dumb. HN has a really awful conspiratorial leaning these days, it's completely baffling to me.
      - Supermancho 3y ago
        > And would make the two guards who admitted falsifying reports… the worst patsies in history? Maybe in 5 or 10 years, they get paid off. History teaches that truth isn't available immediately or at the time. The world is a rough place and I can wait to be convinced. As patsies, they are possibly the best, given the outcome today. > And presumably the FBI and DOJ are in on it too? Now you're just reaching. > It's so achingly dumb. Ah, the sideways name calling. Good luck with that.

publius_0xf3 3y ago

>Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Yes, I do. Like you, I found the circumstances of Epstein's death incredibly suspicious and thought it was a murder. But the more information that has come out, the more it looks like it was a typical prison suicide. [The latest AP article](https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-jail-suicide-prison-death-8d194a756f2b429067f009a0c70f96c0 https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-jail-suicide-pris...) is pretty good. >Two weeks before ending his life, Jeffrey Epstein sat in the corner of his Manhattan jail cell with his hands over his ears, desperate to muffle the sound of a toilet that wouldn’t stop running.