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Yeah, I live here. This will do nothing. The cops have long ago quiet quit, and despite paying over market rate salaries, no one tries to become a cop here. Th
by Der_Einzige 3y ago
Yeah, I live here. This will do nothing.
The cops have long ago quiet quit, and despite paying over market rate salaries, no one tries to become a cop here. They know that everyone here hates them, and that the laws are the most anti-cop in the nation. Cops won't enforce the recriminalization anyway.
Honestly, as crappy as it is to have drugged out zombies in the city center, this is a PNW issue, from British Columbia to SF/Bay area. I happen to like having lived in the place with the most liberal drug laws. I'm saddened to see even piecemeal reversal. The liberty was worth it.
- robertlagrant 3y agoSorry - what's PNW?
- earleybird 3y agoPacific NorthWest
- free_bip 3y agoPacific north-west
- hyperliner 3y ago[flagged]
- BriggyDwiggs42 3y agoDont care if less people die.
- hyperliner 3y ago[dead]
- xref 3y agoWe already tried a temperance movement in America, it was…wildly unpopular and unenforceable to say the least.
- thinkingemote 3y agothe irony is that temperance did (and obviously didn't) work. It reduced levels of alcoholism, increased women's safety, decreased domestic violence, increased health, increased the average family's wealth and increased workers productivity. Obviously and needless to say it also increased organized crime too, and regular people hated it, etc etc, but in terms of what it set out to do, it worked!
- Morte42 3y agoHealth is the one issue that might get people treading more carefully again, between alcohol and drugs the US death toll is tremendous and it is leading to numerous problems on all fronts. Of course if you could kill demand for this stuff that would be the ideal solution, if nobody uses it then there's no problem at all. But poor mental health and people working a full time job and still needing welfare cheques means this isn't something any politicians will even bother trying to overcome earnestly. Its just absolutely ridiculous that the US population is collapsing without immigration and yet so many people in the US are dying like this. Its like a bad comedy.
- rokkitmensch 3y agoMoreover it ruined trust in the rule of law, and strongly incentived corruption among the rank and file LE staff. Exactly the same with the modern day drug war.
- jimbob45 3y agoThey’re not even quiet quitting. They straight up announced that they wouldn’t respond to any noise disturbance call in the Salem area. I feel bad for both the cops and the people because the liberal/conservative split is closer to 50/50 than most would like to admit. It’s just that the liberals are extremely loud in that state.
- xref 3y agoI’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, but from looking at the last two federal election cycles the split doesn’t appear anywhere near 50/50 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Oregon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_president... * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_Senate_election_in_Oregon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_Senate_el...
- otherme123 3y agoUnenforced laws are not good. They can choose to enforce it at will, when needed. Imagine a cop wanting something not entirely moral from a drug addict: you either comply, or else... There are lots of examples, some kinda funny "that would never happen in western civilization": https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1595456040677556226?lang=es https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1595456040677556226?l... But we do the same, only a bit more subtle: https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur21/1791/2020/en/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur21/1791/2020/en/