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Google Pay app will no longer be available

119 points by paulddraper 3y ago

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KomoD 3y ago
That title is very misleading, it ONLY impacts the US version
- happymellon 3y ago
  Wait a minute, I thought Google Pay was the android wallet for storing cards to make purchased via tapping your phone/watch. This talks about having a balance, does Google Pay offer accounts in the US, or am I getting myself mixed up with another product? [Edit] I don't think I'm getting mixed up. https://pay.google.com/about/ https://pay.google.com/about/ > Google Pay is the fast, simple way to pay on sites, in apps, and in stores using the cards saved to your Google Account. Google Wallet appears to expose Google Pay on Android devices, but is just an interface to Google Pay. It used to be the Google Pay app but was rebranded as Google Wallet. And Google Pay app is something else?
  - malermeister 3y ago
    I think the wallet is Google Wallet. Very confusing, I know.
    - happymellon 3y ago
      From their website in the UK https://pay.google.com/about/ https://pay.google.com/about/ -------- Google Pay is the fast, simple way to pay on sites, in apps, and in stores using the cards saved to your Google Account. :Add a card to Google Pay: And download Google Wallet to pay with your Android device. ---- I think Google Wallet is just the Android app to use Google Pay and you use it to save cards *to* Google Pay. They even have a link to "Add a card to Google Pay". Pretty sure a couple of years ago Google Wallet was called Google Pay, but they renamed it. Presumably for whatever service Google Pay App is. Really confusing. Classic Google.
    - bhhaskin 3y ago
      Yeah the split it up. I am pretty sure this is the Vemo like service of being able to send money to other people.
      - happymellon 3y ago
        The banking system in the US is so messed up, and Venmo is so hostile. Here in the UK I can just send people money immediately, and been able to do that for decades.
        KomoD 3y ago
        Same here (Swish), we've got great authentication as well (BankID)
        dboreham 3y ago
        It's deliberately messed up in order to make more profit if you're a bank. UK has proper electronic funds transfer because the culture accepts government telling big business to do stuff for the public benefit. US political corruption and culture precludes that.
        happymellon 3y ago
        I think it's worse than that. My bank offers a US routing and account number so that Americans can transfer money, since the banks over there struggle with international payments. I then found out that my in-laws still can't transfer money because their bank has removed the ability to send money to another account that isn't via Venmo. It's not "messed up" it's hostile.
        dralley 3y ago
        The US has that too, it's just decades late. FedNOW is being rolled out this year
      - dboreham 3y ago
        Ah the old axiom that you only discover Google offers product X on the day they EOL it.
    - duskwuff 3y ago
      The notice on the Wikipedia article for "Google Wallet" is telling: > This article is about the mobile app introduced in 2022. For the discontinued service of the same name, see Google Wallet (2011–2018). > "Google Pay (2018–2022)" redirects here. For the 2020 app, see Google Pay (mobile app).
  - footpath 3y ago
    There's the Google Pay service that processes payments. There's the old Google Pay app that got rebranded as Google Wallet. And then there's a newer Google Pay app available only in the US, Singapore, and India. This is the one getting shutdown. See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pay https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pay And a very helpful chart: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Googlepayments.svg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Googlepayments.svg
    - malermeister 3y ago
      Jesus Christ that chart. What is going on over at Google???
      - happymellon 3y ago
        Payments are the new chat.
        Tommah 3y ago
        Once the Supreme Court ruled that money is speech, this was the next logical step.
      - AtlasBarfed 3y ago
        A fat monopoly and a bunch of unaligned bullshit besides that. Like its all middle management machiavellianism at this s point.
      - eitally 3y ago
        That weird fork the second from the right was from when Google was aspiring to become a bank... or at least partner with one, to offer credit cards. The far right branch is the "Next Billion Users" stream that launched Tez, which at the time was explicitly and solely for the Indian market, but since it was superior to the Google Wallet/Pay at the time, the VP lead decided to aim for global adoption, which was the previous Pay-->Wallet-->Pay nonsense a couple years ago. That has failed, so now everything is reverting back to the original/primary branch on the far left, which is and has always been, owned by the Android team.
brutal_chaos_ 3y ago
FTA: Can I still use the tap to pay feature in stores? Anywhere you normally use Google Pay — from checking out online to tapping and paying in stores — remains the same. If you use your Android phone to shop in stores where Google Pay is accepted, you can continue to tap to pay in stores with the Google Wallet app.
impulser_ 3y ago
So I did some research apparently they have gone full circle now. It started as Google Wallet renamed to Android Pay then renamed to Google Pay then split into Google Pay and Google Wallet and now back to just Google Wallet. Google is a fucking mess lol. I know Sundar has been great for shareholder, but man maybe it's time for a change. A fake post about them getting rid of Gmail next year is going viral on Twitter and you bet people are believing it or double checking because it's Google.
- ignoramous 3y ago
  > I know Sundar has been great... Think the execs responsible for this were excused en masse or quit: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/google-pay-team-reportedly-in-major-upheaval-after-botched-app-revamp/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/google-pay-team-repo... Some founded a fintech company that now also does AI, because why not.
  - theturtletalks 3y ago
    This sort of thing is part of Google’s culture now. I don’t understand how ousting a team could forgive all the similar issues they had before.
  - googlethrow11 3y ago
    No. The VP, Director of Engineering, Product Manager everyone quit. These people have been working 10+ years with Google.
- z2 3y ago
  I likely lost touch with some friends over the years because of general confusion over Google Talk, GTalk through GMail, Google+ Hangouts, later Hangouts, GChat (which I understand to be separate from the current Google Chat?), and Google Chat. The ones I've kept in contact with all agreed to move back to SMS and email. Meanwhile ten years after Apple supported adding boarding passes to their wallet, I finally managed to force a plane ticket into my Google wallet by taking a picture of the barcode, so there's that.
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dcchambers 3y ago
Google's history with their payment apps/platform is almost as convoluted as their history with message apps/platforms. I swear they have gone back and forth on Android Pay/Google Wallet/Google Pay a half dozen times.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  You mean Google TalkVoiceWaveBuzzDiscoHangoutsmeetHuddleHangoutsAlloDuoHangoutsmeetHangoutschatPhonemessagingChat? Google does not mess around with adherence to "naming things is hard."
  - a_vanderbilt 3y ago
    They might have an easier time naming things if they weren't exhausting names on killed products (;
    - guluarte 3y ago
      Bart -> Gemmini -> ??
      - a_vanderbilt 3y ago
        Bart -> Gemmini -> Gemma -> Jemima -> Pearl Milling Co. It all goes full circle! Seriously though, they need to roll improvements into what they're already shipping and stop invented the wheel 20 times over.
      - denysvitali 3y ago
        *Gemini
- refulgentis 3y ago
  I worked on Pixel for several years and used to excuse this stuff. Now, among other things, every time I need to open the app, I inevitably search for Google Pay instead of Wallet. Maybe I'll remember now that this happened. Android Pay -> Google Pay seemed fair, but IIRC, Google Pay -> Google Wallet was just a combo of shipping-the-org-chart and Apple me-too'ing. At the time, they were also leaking that there was going to be a Google credit card / true bank account launched, because Apple had just done that. [^1] There was no greater force internally than Apple. I swear the only thing 90% of leads _actually_ wanted to get done was something close enough to last year's Apple announcements that they could say it with a straight face. [^1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-is-scrapping-its-plan-to-offer-bank-accounts-to-users-11633104001 https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-is-scrapping-its-plan-to...
ElonsNightmare 3y ago
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darth_avocado 3y ago
Strange that Apple can make Apple pay work so well but Google keeps botching it. If nothing else, just copy the product and build what Apple has built, but for Android.
- willsmith72 3y ago
  it's just a name change, which actually happened a while ago. i agree they're incompetent with their constant rebranding, but this isn't really a functional change or an issue at all for users
- theturtletalks 3y ago
  If they could do that, they’d have an iMessage competitor by now. Last Android I used was the Pixel 3 and still couldn’t text from my laptop, something Apple has had for more than a decade.
  - tantalor 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Messages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Messages Web support was released in 2018
    - theturtletalks 3y ago
      Yes, but the wiki is referencing this BI article[0]. Here is the relevant excerpt saying it was bad at first and people were missing messages: >> At launch, Messages for web wasn't very good. It worked, but it wasn't very reliable. Several texts didn't send properly, and I missed a bunch of text messages, too. It clearly wasn't the solution that would bring the iMessage functionality to the Android ecosystem, and I gave it up pretty quickly. >> Fast forward to late 2019 when I recently started using Messages for web again, and I can gleefully report that it's actually pretty good now. I can send and receive photos, videos, GIFs, emoji, sticker, and good old-fashioned text messages, as well as group messages almost entirely reliably. There's only been a couple instances where a message didn't send, but I'm attributing that to the fact that I have Messages on at least a half-dozen computers at the moment. It took more than a year before this feature worked properly. I don't even see the point in Google working on messaging apps anymore. They lost the battle to Whatsapp that had web working way before. 0. https://www.businessinsider.com/google-messages-for-web-how-to-android-imessage-2019-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-messages-for-web-how-...
mhitza 3y ago
> Common questions about these changes Does not include a reason for this change or why is it a US only change.
- w3ll_w3ll_w3ll 3y ago
  Google Pay was rebranded as Google Wallet in the rest of the world in 2022. Only US and Singapore kept the Google Pay brand. (No idea why) https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pay-becomes-google-wallet-again/ https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pay-becomes-google-wall...
  - eitally 3y ago
    It's because the VP in charge of Google Pay was based in Singapore and he ensured it was designed for that market (as well as the US).
    - esafak 3y ago
      Talk about Conway's Law!
- Macha 3y ago
  So in the beginning there was Android Pay, which later became Google Pay in the US and Europe. For India, Google launched an app called Tez (and later renamed Google Pay) there which was more adapted for the India market, doing things like phone number identities and UPI integration. This worked so well in India, that they promoted the head of the India app to be in charge of payments everywhere, and so his plan was to replace the global Google Pay with Indian Google Pay. They started with this in the US, and it flopped hard, both in terms of uptake and reviews. It turns out in many non-India markets (including the US) people don't really want to accept the tradeoffs of phone number identities for anything that doesn't directly compete with their SMS app. So the leader responsible resigned, and the new leadership instead updated the old global Google Pay as Google Wallet. India stuck with Google Pay (formerly known as Tez) since that worked there, and the rest of the world never moved from Google Pay (fka Android Pay) to Google Pay (fka Tez), so only had a single Google Pay at one time. However, Google had now split their userbase across two apps so was scared to shut either there, so the US stayed in limbo for two years. This is now resolving the US based limbo by shutting down Google Pay (fka Tez) in the US, so that the US joins Europe in only using Google Wallet (fka Google Pay fka Android Pay). In short: Before: - India: Google Pay (fka Tez) - Europe: Google Pay (fka Android Pay) - US: Google Pay (fka Android Pay) and GPay (fka Tez) After: India: Google Pay (fka Tez) US & Europe: Google Wallet (fka Google Pay fka Android Pay)
standardUser 3y ago
I use Google Pay for many subscriptions, as well as every single time I take the subway. Am I to understand that is all going away? Or am I confusing "Google pay app" with some other vaguely-named Google feature?
- rsstack 3y ago
  "While in-store and online payments via Google Pay remain unchanged" Subway payments should keep working.
- eitally 3y ago
  My read is that there's the Google Pay app (that currently handles tap-to-pay + all your payments), and Google Wallet (which handles cards only). In the near future, Wallet will handles cards + payments (including subscriptions) + tap-to-pay... but it's unclear whether Google is still going to have Offers & P2P payments as they exist in the current Pay app.
- googlethrow11 3y ago
  Do not worry. This is Google's fucked up branding. They are shutting down phone app not the Google Pay product.
grishka 3y ago
The Google Pay Android app is such a mess. I live in Russia, where the app is now useless for its main purpose, but I still use it for loyalty cards. But whenever I travel abroad, and use it for actual payments, it changes its entire UI to some supposedly newer design. And then reverts back to the old one when I return! IIRC it even changes its name and icon. Someone, somewhere, somehow, wrote the code that does that. Someone thought that it's a nice idea to pack two copies of the app into one apk. And apparently no one ever questioned this decision. I can't even...
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altairprime 3y ago
June 4th is an odd shutdown date, and it makes no sense that they’d terminate offers early. I suspect external pressures exist here. The shutdown date assigned is precisely 16 weeks and 2 business days following the court decision on February 9th that CPRA is now active in California: https://www.foley.com/insights/publications/2024/02/ca-appellate-court-privacy-agency-enforce-cpra-regulations/ https://www.foley.com/insights/publications/2024/02/ca-appel... While this could be merely a coincidence, given that the US app offers “deals” to consumers — which are, I can safely assume, paid for by selling the user’s data to a third party — I imagine that the Friday court decision led Google to terminate offers immediately so that they cannot be not found in violation of CPRA, and then shutdown the app as without offers it’s redundant.
- googlethrow11 3y ago
  Lol. You have no idea how Google functions. They can not make this decision in days. The shutdown was planned at least 6 months ago (I have no internal knowledge now but very likely).
pjmlp 3y ago
Oh, the irony, so one of the flagship Flutter app rewrites is now gone?
- googlethrow11 3y ago
  Gone for USA but continues for India where it is widely successful despite being a super low and less performant app.
Moldoteck 3y ago
Why all renaming when all apps do the same thing? I don't get it, why they just don't silently push the updated terms/changes and just leave the old name as is?

119 points by paulddraper 3y ago

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KomoD 3y ago

That title is very misleading, it ONLY impacts the US version

happymellon 3y ago
Wait a minute, I thought Google Pay was the android wallet for storing cards to make purchased via tapping your phone/watch. This talks about having a balance, does Google Pay offer accounts in the US, or am I getting myself mixed up with another product? [Edit] I don't think I'm getting mixed up. https://pay.google.com/about/ https://pay.google.com/about/ > Google Pay is the fast, simple way to pay on sites, in apps, and in stores using the cards saved to your Google Account. Google Wallet appears to expose Google Pay on Android devices, but is just an interface to Google Pay. It used to be the Google Pay app but was rebranded as Google Wallet. And Google Pay app is something else?
- malermeister 3y ago
  I think the wallet is Google Wallet. Very confusing, I know.
  - happymellon 3y ago
    From their website in the UK https://pay.google.com/about/ https://pay.google.com/about/ -------- Google Pay is the fast, simple way to pay on sites, in apps, and in stores using the cards saved to your Google Account. :Add a card to Google Pay: And download Google Wallet to pay with your Android device. ---- I think Google Wallet is just the Android app to use Google Pay and you use it to save cards *to* Google Pay. They even have a link to "Add a card to Google Pay". Pretty sure a couple of years ago Google Wallet was called Google Pay, but they renamed it. Presumably for whatever service Google Pay App is. Really confusing. Classic Google.
  - bhhaskin 3y ago
    Yeah the split it up. I am pretty sure this is the Vemo like service of being able to send money to other people.
    - happymellon 3y ago
      The banking system in the US is so messed up, and Venmo is so hostile. Here in the UK I can just send people money immediately, and been able to do that for decades.
      - KomoD 3y ago
        Same here (Swish), we've got great authentication as well (BankID)
      - dboreham 3y ago
        It's deliberately messed up in order to make more profit if you're a bank. UK has proper electronic funds transfer because the culture accepts government telling big business to do stuff for the public benefit. US political corruption and culture precludes that.
        happymellon 3y ago
        I think it's worse than that. My bank offers a US routing and account number so that Americans can transfer money, since the banks over there struggle with international payments. I then found out that my in-laws still can't transfer money because their bank has removed the ability to send money to another account that isn't via Venmo. It's not "messed up" it's hostile.
        dralley 3y ago
        The US has that too, it's just decades late. FedNOW is being rolled out this year
    - dboreham 3y ago
      Ah the old axiom that you only discover Google offers product X on the day they EOL it.
  - duskwuff 3y ago
    The notice on the Wikipedia article for "Google Wallet" is telling: > This article is about the mobile app introduced in 2022. For the discontinued service of the same name, see Google Wallet (2011–2018). > "Google Pay (2018–2022)" redirects here. For the 2020 app, see Google Pay (mobile app).
- footpath 3y ago
  There's the Google Pay service that processes payments. There's the old Google Pay app that got rebranded as Google Wallet. And then there's a newer Google Pay app available only in the US, Singapore, and India. This is the one getting shutdown. See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pay https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pay And a very helpful chart: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Googlepayments.svg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Googlepayments.svg
  - malermeister 3y ago
    Jesus Christ that chart. What is going on over at Google???
    - happymellon 3y ago
      Payments are the new chat.
      - Tommah 3y ago
        Once the Supreme Court ruled that money is speech, this was the next logical step.
    - AtlasBarfed 3y ago
      A fat monopoly and a bunch of unaligned bullshit besides that. Like its all middle management machiavellianism at this s point.
    - eitally 3y ago
      That weird fork the second from the right was from when Google was aspiring to become a bank... or at least partner with one, to offer credit cards. The far right branch is the "Next Billion Users" stream that launched Tez, which at the time was explicitly and solely for the Indian market, but since it was superior to the Google Wallet/Pay at the time, the VP lead decided to aim for global adoption, which was the previous Pay-->Wallet-->Pay nonsense a couple years ago. That has failed, so now everything is reverting back to the original/primary branch on the far left, which is and has always been, owned by the Android team.

brutal_chaos_ 3y ago

FTA: Can I still use the tap to pay feature in stores? Anywhere you normally use Google Pay — from checking out online to tapping and paying in stores — remains the same. If you use your Android phone to shop in stores where Google Pay is accepted, you can continue to tap to pay in stores with the Google Wallet app.

impulser_ 3y ago

So I did some research apparently they have gone full circle now. It started as Google Wallet renamed to Android Pay then renamed to Google Pay then split into Google Pay and Google Wallet and now back to just Google Wallet. Google is a fucking mess lol. I know Sundar has been great for shareholder, but man maybe it's time for a change. A fake post about them getting rid of Gmail next year is going viral on Twitter and you bet people are believing it or double checking because it's Google.

ignoramous 3y ago
> I know Sundar has been great... Think the execs responsible for this were excused en masse or quit: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/google-pay-team-reportedly-in-major-upheaval-after-botched-app-revamp/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/google-pay-team-repo... Some founded a fintech company that now also does AI, because why not.
- theturtletalks 3y ago
  This sort of thing is part of Google’s culture now. I don’t understand how ousting a team could forgive all the similar issues they had before.
- googlethrow11 3y ago
  No. The VP, Director of Engineering, Product Manager everyone quit. These people have been working 10+ years with Google.
z2 3y ago
I likely lost touch with some friends over the years because of general confusion over Google Talk, GTalk through GMail, Google+ Hangouts, later Hangouts, GChat (which I understand to be separate from the current Google Chat?), and Google Chat. The ones I've kept in contact with all agreed to move back to SMS and email. Meanwhile ten years after Apple supported adding boarding passes to their wallet, I finally managed to force a plane ticket into my Google wallet by taking a picture of the barcode, so there's that.
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dcchambers 3y ago

Google's history with their payment apps/platform is almost as convoluted as their history with message apps/platforms. I swear they have gone back and forth on Android Pay/Google Wallet/Google Pay a half dozen times.

paulddraper 3y ago
You mean Google TalkVoiceWaveBuzzDiscoHangoutsmeetHuddleHangoutsAlloDuoHangoutsmeetHangoutschatPhonemessagingChat? Google does not mess around with adherence to "naming things is hard."
- a_vanderbilt 3y ago
  They might have an easier time naming things if they weren't exhausting names on killed products (;
  - guluarte 3y ago
    Bart -> Gemmini -> ??
    - a_vanderbilt 3y ago
      Bart -> Gemmini -> Gemma -> Jemima -> Pearl Milling Co. It all goes full circle! Seriously though, they need to roll improvements into what they're already shipping and stop invented the wheel 20 times over.
    - denysvitali 3y ago
      *Gemini
refulgentis 3y ago
I worked on Pixel for several years and used to excuse this stuff. Now, among other things, every time I need to open the app, I inevitably search for Google Pay instead of Wallet. Maybe I'll remember now that this happened. Android Pay -> Google Pay seemed fair, but IIRC, Google Pay -> Google Wallet was just a combo of shipping-the-org-chart and Apple me-too'ing. At the time, they were also leaking that there was going to be a Google credit card / true bank account launched, because Apple had just done that. [^1] There was no greater force internally than Apple. I swear the only thing 90% of leads _actually_ wanted to get done was something close enough to last year's Apple announcements that they could say it with a straight face. [^1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-is-scrapping-its-plan-to-offer-bank-accounts-to-users-11633104001 https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-is-scrapping-its-plan-to...

ElonsNightmare 3y ago

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darth_avocado 3y ago

Strange that Apple can make Apple pay work so well but Google keeps botching it. If nothing else, just copy the product and build what Apple has built, but for Android.

willsmith72 3y ago
it's just a name change, which actually happened a while ago. i agree they're incompetent with their constant rebranding, but this isn't really a functional change or an issue at all for users
theturtletalks 3y ago
If they could do that, they’d have an iMessage competitor by now. Last Android I used was the Pixel 3 and still couldn’t text from my laptop, something Apple has had for more than a decade.
- tantalor 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Messages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Messages Web support was released in 2018
  - theturtletalks 3y ago
    Yes, but the wiki is referencing this BI article[0]. Here is the relevant excerpt saying it was bad at first and people were missing messages: >> At launch, Messages for web wasn't very good. It worked, but it wasn't very reliable. Several texts didn't send properly, and I missed a bunch of text messages, too. It clearly wasn't the solution that would bring the iMessage functionality to the Android ecosystem, and I gave it up pretty quickly. >> Fast forward to late 2019 when I recently started using Messages for web again, and I can gleefully report that it's actually pretty good now. I can send and receive photos, videos, GIFs, emoji, sticker, and good old-fashioned text messages, as well as group messages almost entirely reliably. There's only been a couple instances where a message didn't send, but I'm attributing that to the fact that I have Messages on at least a half-dozen computers at the moment. It took more than a year before this feature worked properly. I don't even see the point in Google working on messaging apps anymore. They lost the battle to Whatsapp that had web working way before. 0. https://www.businessinsider.com/google-messages-for-web-how-to-android-imessage-2019-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-messages-for-web-how-...

mhitza 3y ago

> Common questions about these changes Does not include a reason for this change or why is it a US only change.

w3ll_w3ll_w3ll 3y ago
Google Pay was rebranded as Google Wallet in the rest of the world in 2022. Only US and Singapore kept the Google Pay brand. (No idea why) https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pay-becomes-google-wallet-again/ https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pay-becomes-google-wall...
- eitally 3y ago
  It's because the VP in charge of Google Pay was based in Singapore and he ensured it was designed for that market (as well as the US).
  - esafak 3y ago
    Talk about Conway's Law!
Macha 3y ago
So in the beginning there was Android Pay, which later became Google Pay in the US and Europe. For India, Google launched an app called Tez (and later renamed Google Pay) there which was more adapted for the India market, doing things like phone number identities and UPI integration. This worked so well in India, that they promoted the head of the India app to be in charge of payments everywhere, and so his plan was to replace the global Google Pay with Indian Google Pay. They started with this in the US, and it flopped hard, both in terms of uptake and reviews. It turns out in many non-India markets (including the US) people don't really want to accept the tradeoffs of phone number identities for anything that doesn't directly compete with their SMS app. So the leader responsible resigned, and the new leadership instead updated the old global Google Pay as Google Wallet. India stuck with Google Pay (formerly known as Tez) since that worked there, and the rest of the world never moved from Google Pay (fka Android Pay) to Google Pay (fka Tez), so only had a single Google Pay at one time. However, Google had now split their userbase across two apps so was scared to shut either there, so the US stayed in limbo for two years. This is now resolving the US based limbo by shutting down Google Pay (fka Tez) in the US, so that the US joins Europe in only using Google Wallet (fka Google Pay fka Android Pay). In short: Before: - India: Google Pay (fka Tez) - Europe: Google Pay (fka Android Pay) - US: Google Pay (fka Android Pay) and GPay (fka Tez) After: India: Google Pay (fka Tez) US & Europe: Google Wallet (fka Google Pay fka Android Pay)

standardUser 3y ago

I use Google Pay for many subscriptions, as well as every single time I take the subway. Am I to understand that is all going away? Or am I confusing "Google pay app" with some other vaguely-named Google feature?

rsstack 3y ago
"While in-store and online payments via Google Pay remain unchanged" Subway payments should keep working.
eitally 3y ago
My read is that there's the Google Pay app (that currently handles tap-to-pay + all your payments), and Google Wallet (which handles cards only). In the near future, Wallet will handles cards + payments (including subscriptions) + tap-to-pay... but it's unclear whether Google is still going to have Offers & P2P payments as they exist in the current Pay app.
googlethrow11 3y ago
Do not worry. This is Google's fucked up branding. They are shutting down phone app not the Google Pay product.

grishka 3y ago

The Google Pay Android app is such a mess. I live in Russia, where the app is now useless for its main purpose, but I still use it for loyalty cards. But whenever I travel abroad, and use it for actual payments, it changes its entire UI to some supposedly newer design. And then reverts back to the old one when I return! IIRC it even changes its name and icon. Someone, somewhere, somehow, wrote the code that does that. Someone thought that it's a nice idea to pack two copies of the app into one apk. And apparently no one ever questioned this decision. I can't even...

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altairprime 3y ago

June 4th is an odd shutdown date, and it makes no sense that they’d terminate offers early. I suspect external pressures exist here. The shutdown date assigned is precisely 16 weeks and 2 business days following the court decision on February 9th that CPRA is now active in California: https://www.foley.com/insights/publications/2024/02/ca-appellate-court-privacy-agency-enforce-cpra-regulations/ https://www.foley.com/insights/publications/2024/02/ca-appel... While this could be merely a coincidence, given that the US app offers “deals” to consumers — which are, I can safely assume, paid for by selling the user’s data to a third party — I imagine that the Friday court decision led Google to terminate offers immediately so that they cannot be not found in violation of CPRA, and then shutdown the app as without offers it’s redundant.

googlethrow11 3y ago
Lol. You have no idea how Google functions. They can not make this decision in days. The shutdown was planned at least 6 months ago (I have no internal knowledge now but very likely).

pjmlp 3y ago

Oh, the irony, so one of the flagship Flutter app rewrites is now gone?

googlethrow11 3y ago
Gone for USA but continues for India where it is widely successful despite being a super low and less performant app.

Moldoteck 3y ago

Why all renaming when all apps do the same thing? I don't get it, why they just don't silently push the updated terms/changes and just leave the old name as is?