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ALL current public proof of concepts for AI are a dead end. They are strictly past information ingest machines. Until 'Generative' solution thinking finally s

*ALL* current public proof of concepts for AI are a dead end. They are strictly past information ingest machines. Until 'Generative' solution thinking finally stops chasing the tail of history and believing that what it has ingested from then to now is just as simple as adding more 9's... and the solution will manifest -- is ignoring that without the ability to also quantify stimuli in every definition - of the 'present' - it's nothing but a well dressed toy. We can't even define 'present' and yet we think a farm of GPU's will magically solve singularity. If anything, this is infinitely short sighted.

whelp_24 3y ago
You haven't once ingested anything but past information. Unless you're clairvoyant?
- photoGrant 3y ago
  Oh, I'm sorry, did I argue my omnipotence? Or the fallacy of marketing? You shifted the goalposts pretty far. Our existence in the 'now' means we're reactive to the now and the universe of events influence us as much if not more than our concept of free will. I don't think to make my skin react to cold air. If these models can't ingest, quantify or even understand/intuit current stimuli, they're a dead end solution and the problems are bigger, harder and still being ignored during the cash grab era. I haven't seen or heard a single word of progress on that front. Any sources?
343242dfsdf 3y ago
Any read-only AI model or entity is a dead end. If the system cannot modify itself to adopt improvements (self-provided, externally provided), it can't go beyond its initial training, "per-se". Unless, some kind of ad-hoc architecture permits the AI to grow up, which could be a project or two already, behind the information firewall of the research teams. Not going here to "caution, AGI explosion possible", but more a grounded "some could guess our trick and stole the market before us". For the singularity thing, too many people worried about, and most probably we will hit singularity a lot of time before we actually acknowledge that we have done. Not AGI stuff again, remember that extremely advanced (AI) technology is more than enough to radically change society, not AGI required.

*ALL* current public proof of concepts for AI are a dead end. They are strictly past information ingest machines. Until 'Generative' solution thinking finally s

whelp_24 3y ago

You haven't once ingested anything but past information. Unless you're clairvoyant?

photoGrant 3y ago
Oh, I'm sorry, did I argue my omnipotence? Or the fallacy of marketing? You shifted the goalposts pretty far. Our existence in the 'now' means we're reactive to the now and the universe of events influence us as much if not more than our concept of free will. I don't think to make my skin react to cold air. If these models can't ingest, quantify or even understand/intuit current stimuli, they're a dead end solution and the problems are bigger, harder and still being ignored during the cash grab era. I haven't seen or heard a single word of progress on that front. Any sources?

343242dfsdf 3y ago

Any read-only AI model or entity is a dead end. If the system cannot modify itself to adopt improvements (self-provided, externally provided), it can't go beyond its initial training, "per-se". Unless, some kind of ad-hoc architecture permits the AI to grow up, which could be a project or two already, behind the information firewall of the research teams. Not going here to "caution, AGI explosion possible", but more a grounded "some could guess our trick and stole the market before us". For the singularity thing, too many people worried about, and most probably we will hit singularity a lot of time before we actually acknowledge that we have done. Not AGI stuff again, remember that extremely advanced (AI) technology is more than enough to radically change society, not AGI required.