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AI will eventually be capable of performing most of the tasks humans can do. My neighbor's child is only 6 years old now. What advice do you think I should give

AI will eventually be capable of performing most of the tasks humans can do. My neighbor's child is only 6 years old now. What advice do you think I should give to his parents to develop their child in a way that avoids him growing up to find that AI can do everything better than he can?

colordrops 3y ago
It's not his choice. It's the choice of the ruling class as to whether they will share the wealth or live in walled gardens and leave the rest of us in squalor outside the city walls.
- dogcomplex 3y ago
  It is his (parents') choice in terms of whether he reaches for the tools that are just lying around right there. We can run AI video on consumer hardware at 12fps that is considerably less consistent than this one - but that's just an algorithm and model training away. This is not all just locked up at the top. Anyone can enter this race right now. Sure, you're gonna be 57,000th at the finish line, but you can still run it. And if you're feeling generous, use it to insulate your local community (or the world) from the default forces of capitalism taking their livelihoods. We'll have to still demand from the ruling class - cuz they'll be capable of ending us with a hand wave, like they always have. But we can build, too.
kypro 3y ago
If you want an honest answer you should tell the parents to vote for politicians prepared to launch missile strikes on data centers to secure their child's future. People who are worried purely about employment here are completely missing the larger risks. Realistically his child is going to be unemployable and will therefore either starve or be dependant on some kind of government UBI policy. However UBI is completely unworkable in an AI world because it assumes that AI companies won't just relocate where they don't need to pay tax, and that us as citizens will have any power over the democratic process in a world where we're economically and physically worthless. Assuming UBI happens and the child doesn't starve to death, if the government alter decides to cut UBI payments after receiving large bribes from AI companies what would people do? They can't strike, so I guess they'll need to try to overthrow the government in a world with AI surveillance tech and policing. Realistically humans in the future are going to have no power, and worse still in a world of UBI the less people there leaching from the government means the more resources there are for those with power. The more you can kill the more you earn. And I'm just focusing on how we deal with the unemployment risks here. There's also the risk that AI will be used to create biological weapons. The risk of us creating a rogue superintelligent AGI. The risk of horrific AI applications like mind-reading. Assuming this parent loves their child they should be doing everything in their power to demand progress in AI is halted before it's too late.
- feoren 3y ago
  I'm sure people felt similarly when the first sewing machines were invented. And of course, sewing machines did completely irreversibly change the course of humanity and altered (and even destroyed) many lives. But ultimately, most humans managed, and -- in the end (though that end may be farther away than our own lifetimes) -- benefited. I'm not sure you're actually under-estimating the impact of this AI meteor that's currently hitting humanity, because it is a huge impact. But I think you're grossly under-estimating the vastness of human endeavors, ingenuity, and resilience. Ultimately we're still talking about the bottom falling out of the creative arts: storytelling, images, movies, even porn -- all of that is about to be incredibly easy to create mediocre versions of. Anyone who thrived on making mediocre art, and anyone who thrived second-hand on that industry, is going to have a very bad time. And that's a lot of people, and it's awful. But we're talking about a complete shift in the creative industries in a world where most people drive trucks and work in restaurants or retail. Yes, many of those industries may also get replaced by AI one day, and rapidly at that, but not by ChatGPT or Sora. Of course you're right that our near future may suddenly be an AI company hegemony, replacing the current tech hegemony, which replaced the physical retail hegemony, which replaced the manufacturing hegemony, which replaced the railway hegemony, which replaced the slave-owning plantation hegemony, which replaced the guilds hegemony, which replaced the ... You're also under-estimating how much business can actually be relocated outside the U.S., and also how much revolution can be wrought by a completely disenfranchised generation.
  - parhamn 3y ago
    I get really surprised when seemingly rational people compare AGI to sewing machines and cars. Is it just an instinct to look for some historic analogy, regardless of its relevance?
    - ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
      It's pattern recognition. Machines replace human labor, people get sacred, the world doesn't end, we move on. ML is no different.
ramathornn 3y ago
Humans seems to always find a way to make it work, so I’d tell them to enjoy their younger years and be curious. Lots of beauty in this world and even with a shit ton of ugly stuff, we somehow make it work and keep advancing forward.
- sumedh 3y ago
  > Humans seems to always find a way to make it work There are people who fall behind though and they vote for politicians who will make the country great again when he promises to bring back jobs.
HeartStrings 3y ago
He should become a massage therapist or a Circus performer would be solid advice.
dougmwne 3y ago
He will be in the same boat as the rest of us. In 12 years I expect the current crop of AI capabilities will have hit maturity. We will all collectively have to figure out how life+AI looks like, just as we have done with life+iPhones.
- neta1337 3y ago
  It will be difficult to keep up proper levels of intelligence and education in humanity, because this time it is not only social media and its mostly negative impacts, but also tons of trash content generated by overhyped tools that will impact lots of people in a bad way. Some already stopped thinking and instead consult the chat app under the disguise of being more productive (whatever this means). Tough times ahead!
kart23 3y ago
AI still can't drive reliably. AI isn't sure if something is correct or not. AI still doesn't really understand anything. You could replace AI with computers in your sentence and it would probably be a very real worry that people shared in 1990. Theres always been technology that people are afraid will drastically change things, but ultimately people adapt and the world is usually better off.
TaupeRanger 3y ago
There's no evidence to suggest what you say is true, so I would tell them to simply go to college or trade school for what they are interested in, then take a deep breath, go outside, and realize that literally nothing has changed except that a few people can create visual mockups more quickly.

colordrops 3y ago

It's not his choice. It's the choice of the ruling class as to whether they will share the wealth or live in walled gardens and leave the rest of us in squalor outside the city walls.

dogcomplex 3y ago
It is his (parents') choice in terms of whether he reaches for the tools that are just lying around right there. We can run AI video on consumer hardware at 12fps that is considerably less consistent than this one - but that's just an algorithm and model training away. This is not all just locked up at the top. Anyone can enter this race right now. Sure, you're gonna be 57,000th at the finish line, but you can still run it. And if you're feeling generous, use it to insulate your local community (or the world) from the default forces of capitalism taking their livelihoods. We'll have to still demand from the ruling class - cuz they'll be capable of ending us with a hand wave, like they always have. But we can build, too.

kypro 3y ago

If you want an honest answer you should tell the parents to vote for politicians prepared to launch missile strikes on data centers to secure their child's future. People who are worried purely about employment here are completely missing the larger risks. Realistically his child is going to be unemployable and will therefore either starve or be dependant on some kind of government UBI policy. However UBI is completely unworkable in an AI world because it assumes that AI companies won't just relocate where they don't need to pay tax, and that us as citizens will have any power over the democratic process in a world where we're economically and physically worthless. Assuming UBI happens and the child doesn't starve to death, if the government alter decides to cut UBI payments after receiving large bribes from AI companies what would people do? They can't strike, so I guess they'll need to try to overthrow the government in a world with AI surveillance tech and policing. Realistically humans in the future are going to have no power, and worse still in a world of UBI the less people there leaching from the government means the more resources there are for those with power. The more you can kill the more you earn. And I'm just focusing on how we deal with the unemployment risks here. There's also the risk that AI will be used to create biological weapons. The risk of us creating a rogue superintelligent AGI. The risk of horrific AI applications like mind-reading. Assuming this parent loves their child they should be doing everything in their power to demand progress in AI is halted before it's too late.

feoren 3y ago
I'm sure people felt similarly when the first sewing machines were invented. And of course, sewing machines did completely irreversibly change the course of humanity and altered (and even destroyed) many lives. But ultimately, most humans managed, and -- in the end (though that end may be farther away than our own lifetimes) -- benefited. I'm not sure you're actually under-estimating the impact of this AI meteor that's currently hitting humanity, because it is a huge impact. But I think you're grossly under-estimating the vastness of human endeavors, ingenuity, and resilience. Ultimately we're still talking about the bottom falling out of the creative arts: storytelling, images, movies, even porn -- all of that is about to be incredibly easy to create mediocre versions of. Anyone who thrived on making mediocre art, and anyone who thrived second-hand on that industry, is going to have a very bad time. And that's a lot of people, and it's awful. But we're talking about a complete shift in the creative industries in a world where most people drive trucks and work in restaurants or retail. Yes, many of those industries may also get replaced by AI one day, and rapidly at that, but not by ChatGPT or Sora. Of course you're right that our near future may suddenly be an AI company hegemony, replacing the current tech hegemony, which replaced the physical retail hegemony, which replaced the manufacturing hegemony, which replaced the railway hegemony, which replaced the slave-owning plantation hegemony, which replaced the guilds hegemony, which replaced the ... You're also under-estimating how much business can actually be relocated outside the U.S., and also how much revolution can be wrought by a completely disenfranchised generation.
- parhamn 3y ago
  I get really surprised when seemingly rational people compare AGI to sewing machines and cars. Is it just an instinct to look for some historic analogy, regardless of its relevance?
  - ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
    It's pattern recognition. Machines replace human labor, people get sacred, the world doesn't end, we move on. ML is no different.

ramathornn 3y ago

Humans seems to always find a way to make it work, so I’d tell them to enjoy their younger years and be curious. Lots of beauty in this world and even with a shit ton of ugly stuff, we somehow make it work and keep advancing forward.

sumedh 3y ago
> Humans seems to always find a way to make it work There are people who fall behind though and they vote for politicians who will make the country great again when he promises to bring back jobs.

HeartStrings 3y ago

He should become a massage therapist or a Circus performer would be solid advice.

dougmwne 3y ago

He will be in the same boat as the rest of us. In 12 years I expect the current crop of AI capabilities will have hit maturity. We will all collectively have to figure out how life+AI looks like, just as we have done with life+iPhones.

neta1337 3y ago
It will be difficult to keep up proper levels of intelligence and education in humanity, because this time it is not only social media and its mostly negative impacts, but also tons of trash content generated by overhyped tools that will impact lots of people in a bad way. Some already stopped thinking and instead consult the chat app under the disguise of being more productive (whatever this means). Tough times ahead!

kart23 3y ago

AI still can't drive reliably. AI isn't sure if something is correct or not. AI still doesn't really understand anything. You could replace AI with computers in your sentence and it would probably be a very real worry that people shared in 1990. Theres always been technology that people are afraid will drastically change things, but ultimately people adapt and the world is usually better off.

TaupeRanger 3y ago

There's no evidence to suggest what you say is true, so I would tell them to simply go to college or trade school for what they are interested in, then take a deep breath, go outside, and realize that literally nothing has changed except that a few people can create visual mockups more quickly.