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525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended
- google234123 3y agoAs long as none of those people have lectured us or people below them about climate change then I'm fine. One flight from LA to Vegas is the same CO2 the same as 40,000 cars doing the trip?
- colingoodman 3y agoBoth would be less than the CO2 produced by a train. I hope Brightline West works out.
- matsemann 3y agoHow many went to the same airports? Like LA, NY etc? Wouldn't it be just as quick and easy for most of these people if they just chartered a bigger plane together?
- colpabar 3y agoI don't know from experience, but I'd argue the entire point of private jets is to not have to share anything with anyone. These are a different class of people; they don't think like you or I do.
- schmookeeg 3y agoI agree with your point's sentiment, but I doubt anyone in here is chartering a bus or van to attend an event their neighbors are also attending the next town over. They think the same way we do. We play the game at the level we can afford. Their game is higher level, but it is played the same. Pulling my plane out of the hangar is no different than pulling the Subaru out of the garage. Thinking about sharing the ride never enters into it. I don't need to trade reduced cost for increased efficiency and reduced convenience. Neither do these 525 jet owners or charter clients.
- probably_wrong 3y agoThe title is missing a "525" at the beginning - this was probably auto-removed but in this case I'd argue it should be brought back.
- lopkeny12ko 3y agoI don't see how "525" contributes any value. I gather that the point of the post is to show off a data visualization of a lot of planes leaving Las Vegas. The number feels like an implementation detail.
- Freedom2 3y agoThe title has now changed it seems and I got immensely more value out of the post.
- kirab 3y agoAgreed, took me 30 seconds to understand the point.
- add-sub-mul-div 3y agoIt's the perfect symbol of Hacker News and Silicon Valley culture, overconfidence in using technology to automate something but making it worse in the big picture.
- andy_ppp 3y agoAnyone else think banning private jets would be generally a much better thing for climate? I find it pretty shocking the rich are allowed to pollute the way they do.
- tristor 3y agoAll aviation, altogether, private jets inclusive, is less than 3% of world emissions. Getting people fired up about rich people using private jets is just a distraction from the truth in the same way that paper straws are. The reality is that a small handful of industries generate the majority of pollution, and they have no meaningful regulatory pressure to stop, and that even that mostly pales in comparison to the emissions generated by electricity production, which we need to decarbonize as quickly as possible.
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- FredPret 3y agoI'd like to see a source for that pie chart. According to this [1], 28% of US emissions are from transport, and for the aircraft it's 7% of the 28% for commercial and 2% of 28% private. That does seem like mostly a non-issue. [1] https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions#transportation https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis...
- jjk7 3y ago3% is a pretty big reduction for such a simple thing...
- baggy_trough 3y agoYou think getting rid of aviation is a simple thing?
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- jjtheblunt 3y agoI'm wondering if this stat is calculated correctly, because there's not room for 525 private jets to be sitting around at once there, let alone in the giant airplane parking lots in Arizona.
- autoexec 3y agoa random redditor who didn't link to a source said that they could accommodate 475 parked jets, and that the others flew in from other airports to drop off/pick up their passenger and immediately left
- jjtheblunt 3y agoyeah i was going to say pick ups staged at other airports would be possible. i saw the random reddit stuff too but still...it's got to be, if that is a count of departures, that they left off the arrivals that didn't stay. i mean that's like O'Hare raised to the ATL exponent, as stated.
- ecf 3y agoAnd we’re told we need to be conscious of the plastic bags we’re using at the grocery to fight pollution. We’re a drop in the ocean compared to these people.
- dzhiurgis 3y agoYes they are producing 100x more emissions, but there are 1000000x more poor people…
- jayknight 3y agoI'm honestly a little surprised it's not more. In the small SEC town where I went to college, there would be dozens of private planes that would leave shortly after a home football game. Not all were jets, but some where.
- jtriangle 3y agoLots of comments in that thread more or less saying "The drive back to LA would be the same time as the flight"... These people have never left Vegas on a Sunday and it shows. That drive is 4 hours, without traffic. With traffic it's an easy 7, I've heard of it being as high as 13. So yeah, if you've got a jet, and the money to fly it, I'd say that you can probably justify using it here, it's like half the time. Though, even flying commercial would save almost the same amount of time, you might pick up an extra hour, much more waiting around, but, beats being stuck in the middle of BFE in traffic.
- ginko 3y agoIf they wanted to travel to/from LA in style they could have also done this: https://www.amtrak.com/charter-your-private-train https://www.amtrak.com/charter-your-private-train
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 3y agoFull title: "525 private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended. Several had paper straws onboard."