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Unconstitutional? If someone has been swatted 47 times then you no longer have probable cause just because someone made a call. I wonder if there is a gentlema
by quickthrower2 3y ago
Unconstitutional? If someone has been swatted 47 times then you no longer have probable cause just because someone made a call.
I wonder if there is a gentlemanly version where they surround the building, call you on the phone to come out with your hands up. Do a quick check then fuck off.
- j-bos 3y agoYeah at that point it looks like unwarranted search.
- dylan604 3y agoAt 47 times, I'd be shocked if they don't just have the SWAT van sitting around the corner waiting for number 48
- reactordev 3y agoYou’d think after attempt 4 or 5 they would just flag the address as “not-a-threat”
- edmundsauto 3y agoSounds like a good way for the bad guys to pre clear themselves.
- reactordev 3y agoSounds like there’s no bad guys, it’s all a hoax… any idiot could call to get someone swatted.
- bagels 3y agoThe bad guy is the caller & the police at that point.
- reactordev 3y agoThe kid, yeah, that’s a result of the twitch.tv hotheads. He should be prosecuted. Police, they are just doing their jobs (at the minimum) and should probably institute a protocol if they are tasked to the same location more than 5 times in a calendar year.
- Dylan16807 3y agoIt's called a hypothetical. Except it's not even hypothetical, the swatter did swat himself repeatedly.
- honkycat 3y ago[flagged]
- Ntrails 3y agoJust react in a proportional manner to the likelihood. Knock on the door, say hello, ask if everything is ok and can you have a look around. Assume but confirm.
- whoopsie 3y agoApparently the overtime is too good or recruiting standard too low. Either way, this yelp review says: avoid Milwaukee because police would have a struggle figuring out basic who dun its.
- rhcom2 3y agoEven this "gentlemanly version" can still end tragically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting
- voiceblue 3y agoInteresting that everyone in this story suffered consequences except for the person who pulled the trigger.
- MaKey 3y agoHe was even promoted to detective in 2022.
- orlp 3y agoWhat I find strange is that the original person who was threatened with swatting who gave the 'fake' address was convicted of wire fraud. I do understand why he was convicted: > Viner threatened to swat Gaskill over the loss. Gaskill intentionally gave Viner the wrong address, a location in Wichita where he previously resided with his family, and where he said he would "be waiting". Gaskill's family had been evicted from the address in 2016 So there is probable cause to believe that he intended harm to come to the new residents of that address. But how on earth does that lead to wire fraud?
- wepple 3y agoAs I understand it, the US system is pretty poorly set up to deal with things related to the internet, so wire fraud is often the go to. Happens often with hacking as well.
- BeFlatXIII 3y agoIt makes me wonder if Gaskill would've gotten away with no legal consequences if he had given some made-up address that coincidentally happened to be a real one. Something like “420 Weed Avenue.” Instead, he got convicted for revenge on the current tenant.
- ranger_danger 3y ago[flagged]
- KerrAvon 3y agoListen to yourself. ‘It’s OK to mke the life of someone who’s already suffering worse just to laugh at him. It’s his fault.’
- ranger_danger 3y agoSo actions can't have consequences? I think that's a much worse thing to say.
- jjulius 3y agoYeah, what a really disgusting take.
- ranger_danger 3y agoI never said it was ok. I said if he stopped then they would stop.
- buttercraft 3y agoSo, it's a "stop making me hit you" kind of thing then?
- ranger_danger 3y agoNo it's an "actions have consequences" thing.
- shepherdjerred 3y ago> Not trying to victim blame This is the definition of victim blaming. You're implying that they somehow deserve the outcome.
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- phone8675309 3y agoAs someone from Milwaukee I can categorically tell you that the police department is a complete joke and I'm honestly shocked they haven't shot this dude yet with how incompetent they are.
- sixothree 3y agoYou can bet that would happen if the target was a member of the police force.