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My kids already think many recent Fortnite collabs (Star Wars, Marvel, etc) are lame. Hasn't stopped them from playing though. https://www.dexerto.com/fortnit
by resolutebat 3y ago
My kids already think many recent Fortnite collabs (Star Wars, Marvel, etc) are lame. Hasn't stopped them from playing though.
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- sublinear 3y agoI had the same reaction 20 years ago to Kingdom Hearts. Disney is definitely at risk of becoming irrelevant with their stale IP.
- totetsu 3y agoWhen kingdom hearts was released I got my first glimpse of how some people seem to throw their logic and taste out the window for Disney. It just seemed the dumbest thing to me. And why was the sword a key.. [edit: this was my teenage selfs opinion]
- ethbr1 3y agoSome people like goofy mashup fun. There's a ton of people who apparently really liked Kingdom Hearts. It's pretty elitist to consider some IP too sacred to remix.
- jvanderbot 3y agoEveryone in my friend group considered it a runaway hit. They all played a ton. I was amazed.
- tombert 3y agoI only played Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 on the Playstation 2 as a teenager, and I did enjoy them while playing, but I have to admit that I have absolutely no idea what the hell happened story-wise by the end of the second game. The story just got increasingly convoluted and harder to follow, and the juxtaposition of serious Final Fantasy characters and Disney characters never really stopped being funny to me.
- aidenn0 3y agoI didn't play KH for the story; it was just a fun ARPG. I couldn't tell you the plot to the Mana games either, and they had some ridiculous stuff too (traveling by cannon?)
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago100% agreed on the story. There’s a recap video that’s probably not too hard to find on youtube which takes 30 minutes to explain the story up to the start of KH3 and I remember a predictable amount of it. There’s also this gem: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fCWjSOSWiUw https://youtube.com/watch?v=fCWjSOSWiUw I only know enough about what “Aqua got ‘Norted” means to put an apostrophe in front of ‘Norted. (Xehanort possesses people or whatever.) I also literally never saw Aqua in any game I played before KH3, except maybe as an extra I didn’t notice.
- WorldMaker 3y agoSomewhere in the middle between the serious recap and the short joke remains this incredible video essay trying to explain the series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwEwxKkCGJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwEwxKkCGJE
- HideousKojima 3y agoThe first KH was fun I guess. And the combat mechanics Square made for KH are now the standard in Final Fantasy. But the story of KH went completely off the rails in all the sequels and spinoffs and I don't understand how anyone still cares about the story anymore.
- justech 3y ago> goofy mashup fun Heh, not sure if pun intended but this made me giggle
- hoseja 3y agoDoes it feature Jesus of Nazareth?
- n6242 3y agoTo me at least, I liked Kingdom Hearts as a kid despite the Disney stuff, not thanks to it. I played it after Final Fantasy IX and X so I really enjoyed the change from turn-based combat.
- SllX 3y agoBecause it was a really fun action RPG with camera control issues, that then got fixed in Kingdom Hearts II (actually sooner with Final Mix Plus I think but most people weren’t importing that). It started life as a collab, and it took on an identity of its own almost from your first moment in the game. I literally don’t have a conception of what Donald or Goofy are like outside of Kingdom Hearts anymore, well except for Donald’s contribution to the Ducking Hardcore Mix of It’s a Small World. IP don’t make the game. The game makes the game.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago>And why was the sword a key. surprisingly one of the simpler questions to answer. The Keyblade is the key that can open (or close) any door. And that was the theme of the first Kingdom Hearts: doors. the big villians plan is to destroy all worlds by opening the door to the Dark World and flooding the existing Light dimension with hoards of monsters. you also spend a lot of time closing off the doors to the heart of the world to protect their cores (monsters destroy core = destroyed world). In addition to bashing enemies and being a large narrative hook, it's a nifty explanation for why you are able to simply tap on a chest and open anything you want. Or break and enter into a bunch of buildings (although the game forgets constantly that it can do that).
- SilasX 3y agoCynical answer: a big key is less scary to the soccer moms buying this stuff for their kids (than a sword).
- birracerveza 3y agoKH is a beautiful mess that makes absolutely no sense at all, from the idea to the execution, a complete fever dream that is somehow a very enjoyable experience, but only if you embrace the silliness of it all. If you're a teenager that may be much easier... or much harder, in cases such as yours.
- giancarlostoro 3y agoIf instead of buying IP and stealing from public domain works they invested more into creating new IP they could actually make a lot of money. I'm sick of them being allowed to increase their entertainment monopoly on children instead of being told to just create new original works. It's not like they have a shortage of talented people...
- mynameisvlad 3y agoWhat public domain works have their recent movies been based off of? Outside of their reimaginings/reboots, I can't think of a single recent movie that isn't an original work. And that doesn't include things like LucasFilm, Marvel and Pixar which are, obviously, original and still part of Disney.
- legostormtroopr 3y agoTangled (Repunzel), Moana (uses and remixes actual Polynesian myths), Frozen (based on the snow queen), Peter Pan, Little Mermaid - a stack of recent Disney movies have been based on existing IP. You just don't notice because they culturally steamroll the originals. The most recent movie Wish - is just callbacks to other Disney movies, so does it count as original IP? And this excludes their reboots - but also excludes Pixar which has done some original albeit lacklustre stuff recently.
- selimthegrim 3y agoAs far as Frozen goes, at least they got something new to replace the Norway exhibit at Epcot, because it got so old and stale, that Norway disowned it, and refused to pay for the renewal
- bombcar 3y agoFrozen is just Norwegian propaganda and you’ll not convince me otherwise. I wonder if anyone has worked out the actual dollar effect it is has had on Norwegian tourism.
- tomcam 3y agoAt risk? They haven’t had hit movie for years. They have destroyed just about everything they’ve touched, from Indiana Jones to Star Wars to Snow White.
- ahuhz 3y agoHit movies don’t really seem to matter to Disney in the grand scheme of things. It’s more about selling merchandise of their already established brands.
- jjulius 3y agoAnd yet they're still incredibly relevant...
- paulddraper 3y agoBy what metric was Star Wars not a hit movie
- bombcar 3y agoBy comparison to the previous two trilogies, and by performance of offshoots resulting in cancellations. It was supposed to kick off a Marvell-style universe of infinite blockbusters. It didn’t.
- airstrike 3y agoThat's not the definition of a flop though
- paulddraper 3y agoThe number of hit movies is vanishingly small by those goalposts.
- nilamo 3y agoThey've had several hits over the past few years, what nonsense are you spreading? Encanto and Turning Red are both great
- duxup 3y agoI was a bit mystified by the appeal of kingdom of hearts too… but the fans I knew loved it so they must have done something right.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoI’m not a disney fan but I enjoyed those games. They’re just good action RPGs with fresh advancement bonuses. Very Square Enix, which makes sense, of course. KH3 also made me realize that they can start to target child and adult fans via recently popular titles (e.g. Frozen) and ~30 years ago popular titles (e.g. Toy Story), respectively.
- kmeisthax 3y agoThe thing about Kingdom Hearts is you assume it's a vapid Disney corporate tie-in, but then you play it and realize it's actually a vapid Square Enix corporate tie-in. That's the actual draw for Kingdom Hearts fans: an absolutely incomprehensible mess of a plot[0] that just so happens to use a shitton of Disney and Final Fantasy characters. [0] "Simple and clean is the way it should be..."
- NetOpWibby 3y agoTying in the lyrics was an excellent touch
- teeray 3y agoNever got to play it, but I always loved “Simple and Clean.” Sounds like I got the best experience of the game.
- geraldwhen 3y agoMore or less yes. 1+2 are decent, but Simple and Clean is more powerful than either game combined.
- prossercj 3y agoThe score as a whole is one of the best parts of the game. But I didn't find it vapid at all. I consider it an allegory about globalism. Sora's quest is to restore the integrity of each "world", integrity that was lost when the worlds were "connected". The denizens of connected worlds become "heartless", etc. This only applies to the first game, though. After that I have no idea what's going on.
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- dark-star 3y agothe lyrics you quoted are actually: "Simple and clean is the way that you′re making me feel tonight."
- mckn1ght 3y agoSame reaction here with Magic: the Gathering, and all their collabs (Marvel is on the horizon-ugh) but still enjoy playing the game. And they’re apparently single-handedly keeping Hasbro afloat. Funny enough Disney also recently launched their own TCG: Lorcana. A whole new way to leverage that IP!
- slater- 3y agoI’m gonna make a deck that’s just Mountains and Spider-Mans
- amiantos 3y agoDisney is at risk of becoming irrelevant? And people are upvoting this take? As if all the Disney Adults in the world are just going to snap out of it. As if all the children who love Disney stuff currently are going to grow out of it. In what world is this considered an informative and knowledgable take? Even at its lowest point financially, Disney IP has never been irrelevant at any point.
- TomK32 3y agoJust wait until Disney buys Hasbro and watch how bad Magic the Gathering will get then...
- mckn1ght 3y agoHaha you beat me to the punch a little bit here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39299416 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39299416 But they have a competing product… for now?
- michaelbrave 3y agothe lego one was well received I think.